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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 501578 times)

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REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2240 on: October 26, 2022, 01:23:40 AM »
You can get the TCL Flip 2 for $20.
You can then get it kashered at TAG, or do it yourself by following the instructions HERE.
This phone is locked to Tracfone (which owned by Verizon) and is locked to Tracfone. After using this phone for 60 days with Tracfone, they will unlock it on request and you'll be able to transfer it to VZW.
Step 4 in the guide does not happen to my phone. Once your phone screen says: =>FASTBOOT mode

Anybody can help ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2241 on: October 26, 2022, 10:43:30 AM »
Cat S22 is your answer.
It's a heavy clunky phone. Anything similar?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2243 on: October 26, 2022, 01:00:39 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2244 on: October 26, 2022, 01:06:12 PM »
Step 4 in the guide does not happen to my phone. Once your phone screen says: =>FASTBOOT mode

Anybody can help ?
Ask Here. But did you make sure you installed all the drivers before getting to that step? And did you make sure the phone was completely powered off and only plugged it in after clicking 'reboot fastboot mode'?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2245 on: October 26, 2022, 05:08:09 PM »
Ask Here. But did you make sure you installed all the drivers before getting to that step? And did you make sure the phone was completely powered off and only plugged it in after clicking 'reboot fastboot mode'?
Worked now.
I had to restart the computer for the drivers to take effect. Thanks

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2246 on: October 30, 2022, 06:59:54 PM »
Find an app that can back your contacts it up as a .VCF then share via SMS to the Alcatel
it doesn’t seem to be able to accept a text with the vcard…

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2247 on: October 30, 2022, 08:25:40 PM »
So the Galaxy couldn't even make it as the best flip? LOL

Silly because the article lists flip phones “for people who hate smartphones” and the Z Flip 3 is clearly a smartphone. At the time of publishing the Z flip 4 was already on the market for over a month.

This should tell you more about the quality of the publisher/author/listicle than it tells you about whether Samsungs Z flips are good devices or not. I think they’re gimmicks, but not because of a shoddy Yahoo listicle.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2248 on: October 31, 2022, 12:03:24 AM »
it doesn’t seem to be able to accept a text with the vcard…
You really should NOT be switching to that phone....
But if you insist.... Send the file via email, then download it onto a computer and then transfer to the phone; share via Bluetooth or micro-SD card.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2249 on: November 02, 2022, 11:22:03 PM »
What phone + service is the cheapest these days?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2250 on: November 02, 2022, 11:51:19 PM »
What phone + service is the cheapest these days?
Hello mobile . Runs on the T-Mobile network $5 a month tax included.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2251 on: November 03, 2022, 12:41:15 AM »
What phone + service is the cheapest these days?
More details would help...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2252 on: November 03, 2022, 03:02:22 PM »
Hello mobile . Runs on the T-Mobile network $5 a month tax included.
What phone is compatible with that service?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2253 on: November 06, 2022, 11:20:03 PM »
What phone + service is the cheapest these days?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2254 on: November 07, 2022, 12:10:30 AM »
What phone is compatible with that service?
Most unlocked phones,
I tried it last week in a Kyocera E4810. Works great

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2255 on: November 07, 2022, 11:32:19 AM »
Silly because the article lists flip phones “for people who hate smartphones” and the Z Flip 3 is clearly a smartphone. At the time of publishing the Z flip 4 was already on the market for over a month.

This should tell you more about the quality of the publisher/author/listicle than it tells you about whether Samsungs Z flips are good devices or not. I think they’re gimmicks, but not because of a shoddy Yahoo listicle.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2256 on: November 13, 2022, 01:13:55 PM »
A solution for those who want a flip phone and iPhone that work with the same number. This works for me with the Kyocera DURAXV. I downloaded the Verizon message plus app on my iPhone and activated the app with my flip phone number. There is a option on the Verizon message app to receive calls and make calls with the app number. Once activated  Now when ever i receive a call on my flip phone it rings my iPhone as well.   I get messages on the iPhone as well. In addition its pretty easy to call out of the iPhone with this flip phone number as it integrates into the native Apple dialer. The only downside is that when you send messages from the iPhone it doesn’t come up on the flip phone and vice versa as well. Otherwise this is a decent solution if you would like to leave your iPhone at work and have a life at home. On android though I don’t know if this will work.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2257 on: November 14, 2022, 10:46:08 PM »
How would people compare the Sunbeam F1 vs the Fig flip vs the QIN F30? In terms of reception, durability, and just plain functionality (e.g., not being laggy)?

And just for a frame of reference, how would they all compare with an LG classic flip?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2258 on: November 14, 2022, 11:57:02 PM »
Coming from a smartphone it's a disaster, it's $20 so I had zero expectations but this isn't the solution.
Phone is consistently slow & buggy.
I'm looking for a flip that can have apps like Google voice & has easy texting
It's a heavy clunky phone. Anything similar?

If you want a slim light phone, that has google voice, and "easy texting", you want a smartphone

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2259 on: November 15, 2022, 02:20:58 PM »
How would people compare the  vs the Fig flip vs the QIN F30? In terms of reception, durability, and just plain functionality (e.g., not being laggy)?

And just for a frame of reference, how would they all compare with an LG classic flip?

Does anyone have more input on these 3?

Sunbeam F1
Fig flip
QIN F30