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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2320 on: December 05, 2022, 11:43:56 PM »
I have 3G flip phone with a Red Pocket plan. Just got memo that my 3G network shutting down. What are my options? Can I keep same device and switch carriers? Want to keep same number, also want Kosher-style phone
You cannot use that device anymore. You need to purchase a new 4g device, see wiki for options. Just acknowledge that you are going to pay $ and downgrade. Thats just the way it is now

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« Reply #2321 on: December 06, 2022, 12:28:44 AM »
I have no first hand experience but one example is the ability to show over other apps is blocked in android go because it drains resources
This is intersting. From my experience, this can be bypassed using "adb shell appops set com.package.name SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW allow"
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2322 on: December 06, 2022, 01:20:11 AM »
This is intersting. From my experience, this can be bypassed using "adb shell appops set com.package.name SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW allow"
I was wondering if I should try this on my Cat phone (although I plan on returning it so I didn't bother trying). Would it have worked even though it's completely disabled?
Don't even try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2323 on: December 06, 2022, 09:03:51 AM »
This is intersting. From my experience, this can be bypassed using "adb shell appops set com.package.name SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW allow"
this has impacted using samsung pay plugin but its still functional. i will try that command and see if it works

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2324 on: December 06, 2022, 10:12:19 AM »
My biggest pet peeve with the cat S22 is that in the Gmail app I'm unable to swipe to next/previous email. If anyone has a fix please let me know
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2325 on: December 06, 2022, 11:57:10 PM »
Does anyone have any bright ideas how to connect the cat s22 flip to a galaxy watch 4 classic. I know wear os and android go arent compatible but maybe there are workarounds?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2326 on: December 10, 2022, 09:42:10 PM »
Is anybody willing to trade a brand new still sealed tcl flip2 (with the 1200 minute year bonus plan linked to it) for an already unlocked tcl flip2 in good condition? Or really any 4g flip phone that's unlocked and in good condition. I'm located in Lakewood.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2327 on: December 15, 2022, 07:31:07 PM »
We sell flip phones at our website www.kosherflip.org GREAT PRICES!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2328 on: December 28, 2022, 12:52:10 PM »
We sell flip phones on our website www.kosherflip.org GREAT PRICES!
You're entitled to your opinion of what's called a great price for a phone that cost $19.88 at walmart.
 Basically charging for putting service on for 2 months, and or loading apps instead of doing it on their own on apps4flip.com

So for the convenience is what your paying.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2329 on: December 28, 2022, 08:41:00 PM »
You're entitled to your opinion of what's called a great price for a phone that cost $19.88 at walmart.
 Basically charging for putting service on for 2 months, and or loading apps instead of doing it on their own on apps4flip.com

So for the convenience is what your paying.
$90 service fee is not too bad. I would say that's a good price for the non-tech-savvy people out there. Or anybody that doesn't want to wait 2 months for an unlocked phone.

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« Reply #2330 on: December 29, 2022, 01:35:44 AM »
$90 service fee is not too bad. I would say that's a good price for the non-tech-savvy people out there. Or anybody that doesn't want to wait 2 months for an unlocked phone.
Very fare. Yes that's true. I do agree to that.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2331 on: December 30, 2022, 12:11:53 AM »
Anyone know the best way to delete  the browser and lock the  play store on a "fig" f21 from Ali express ? ( It comes with a wonderful meushar logo from the vaad harabbanim of Shenzhen)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2332 on: December 30, 2022, 01:29:08 AM »
Anyone know the best way to delete  the browser and lock the  play store on a "fig" f21 from Ali express ? ( It comes with a wonderful meushar logo from the vaad harabbanim of Shenzhen)
Are you serious about a logo?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2333 on: December 30, 2022, 04:08:41 AM »
Anyone know the best way to delete  the browser and lock the  play store on a "fig" f21 from Ali express ? ( It comes with a wonderful meushar logo from the vaad harabbanim of Shenzhen)
I would say go to TAG but I heard they bshita dont filter these phones due to the abundance of fake meushar logos. In Israel most cell phone stores that sell them can also filter them. If your techy and want to actually modify the system on the phone to remove browser and play store look at this guide from XDA for how to modify that phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2334 on: January 03, 2023, 03:14:40 AM »
Hi, can someone clarify to me. Are all these phones from the wiki the same phone just under different carriers?
Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2335 on: January 03, 2023, 06:21:52 AM »
Hi, can someone clarify to me. Are all these phones from the wiki the same phone just under different carriers?
Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Thanks
Correct. They are all the same phone just under different carriers. There are some minor differences in hardware and software. Hardware: phone color and the extra quick dial button on the outside. Software: carrier specific apps and weather app and having the French langauge.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2336 on: January 03, 2023, 08:43:39 AM »
Correct. They are all the same phone just under different carriers. There are some minor differences in hardware and software. Hardware: phone color and the extra quick dial button on the outside. Software: carrier specific apps and weather app and having the French langauge.
Thanks for replying. When checking on each website it seems that some run on kaios, and some on AOSP, also some have a half GB of RAM while other list 1 GB?

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« Reply #2337 on: January 03, 2023, 10:19:30 AM »
Thanks for replying. When checking on each website it seems that some run on kaios, and some on AOSP, also some have a half GB of RAM while other list 1 GB?
All of the ones posted in the wiki are the same. Models #: T408DL, 4058C, 4058L, 4058E. They all run AOSP and have 1gb RAM. There is a very similar model the 4056 which runs kaios and is not nearly as good.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2338 on: January 03, 2023, 06:09:51 PM »
All of the ones posted in the wiki are the same. Models #: T408DL, 4058C, 4058L, 4058E. They all run AOSP and have 1gb RAM. There is a very similar model the 4056 which runs kaios and is not nearly as good.
Final question. If I'll be using the phone for a Verizon MVNO (US Mobile) , which model should I get?

Thanks again

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2339 on: January 03, 2023, 11:49:30 PM »
Anyone with experience on this issue?

Having issues with my Kyocera Cadance, I don't have any filters installed currently,  and did a factory reset. But i still seem to have no luck. I'm using it on Tracfone Wireless if that makes a difference.
Wonder if others have had the issue in the past.
 It seems someone else had the very same issue in the past.

https://community.verizon.com/t5/Windows-Phone/new-message-notification-stopped-on-Kyocera-Caydence/m-p/1685858#M45715
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