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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2540 on: June 23, 2023, 04:32:15 PM »
Probably not I have no idea. But I imagine if so the best solution would be to do so on the phone level. Maybe it can come to email, from that point its yours.
There are also of course other options similar to google voice but more robust

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2541 on: June 23, 2023, 04:40:37 PM »
Probably not I have no idea. But I imagine if so the best solution would be to do so on the phone level. Maybe it can come to email, from that point its yours.
that's my question
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2542 on: June 23, 2023, 05:00:23 PM »
Does anyone know how to Kasher the Coolpad snap?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2543 on: June 23, 2023, 07:32:20 PM »
You could use Google Voice with Zapier

Can't believe I just found this thread. I've had a flipphone for like two years now
This is definitely a rabbithole I'm going to be going down

How can I get waze on KaIOS that's what I want to know
There is no Google Voice integration with Zapier, correct me if Im wrong

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2544 on: June 25, 2023, 12:10:22 AM »
There is no Google Voice integration with Zapier, correct me if Im wrong
It can go to email though... and then from there

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2545 on: June 25, 2023, 10:45:57 AM »
I had a tracfone phone and sim card with an unlimited plan, switched to a yearly plan with a new phone (was part of a deal) to be able to keep activated for a year while away.

I switched that sim card back to the original (better) phone and picture text doesn't work.

I bought a new sim card and activated it with the original phone in case that was the issue and it didn't help.

Picture text works with the 2nd (not as good) phone, so it's not an issue with the plan. Any ideas?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2546 on: June 25, 2023, 10:55:18 AM »
I had a tracfone phone and sim card with an unlimited plan, switched to a yearly plan with a new phone (was part of a deal) to be able to keep activated for a year while away.

I switched that sim card back to the original (better) phone and picture text doesn't work.

I bought a new sim card and activated it with the original phone in case that was the issue and it didn't help.

Picture text works with the 2nd (not as good) phone, so it's not an issue with the plan. Any ideas?
No easy fix, when sim switching on an LG Classic this causes the issue

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2547 on: June 25, 2023, 12:28:46 PM »
When this happened to me with Tracfone, I spend hours with customer service on the phone (and of course they drop the call if they run out of ideas).
They switched my service around between different settings and MVNO carriers and what not, and nothing nothing worked. Eventually I just switched to Boost, and learnt never to move my sim card to a smartphone again.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2548 on: June 25, 2023, 03:30:56 PM »
No easy fix, when sim switching on an LG Classic this causes the issue
In this case I first had the LG Classic, then got new sim card with a TCL and then put the TCL sim card into the LG Classic. At that point the pic text stopped working on the LG Classic.

So the issue is with the phone? Would resetting the phone help (although not sure if the filter would allow that)?

When this happened to me with Tracfone, I spend hours with customer service on the phone (and of course they drop the call if they run out of ideas).
They switched my service around between different settings and MVNO carriers and what not, and nothing nothing worked. Eventually I just switched to Boost, and learnt never to move my sim card to a smartphone again.

Did you switch to boost on the phone that had an issue? In other words, if I unlock the phone and switch to a different service would the pic texting start working again?
« Last Edit: June 25, 2023, 03:37:49 PM by Natey »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2549 on: June 26, 2023, 03:46:23 PM »
In this case I first had the LG Classic, then got new sim card with a TCL and then put the TCL sim card into the LG Classic. At that point the pic text stopped working on the LG Classic.

So the issue is with the phone? Would resetting the phone help (although not sure if the filter would allow that)?

Did you switch to boost on the phone that had an issue? In other words, if I unlock the phone and switch to a different service would the pic texting start working again?
Some setting on that phone causes it to be turned off, I had that issue, spent hours and finally got someone who saw a setting that was turned off.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2550 on: June 26, 2023, 11:03:19 PM »
Is there anywhere in Lakewood that sells pre-'tagged' flip phones?

Or does someone have one to sell? Need one tomorrow.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2551 on: June 27, 2023, 02:03:42 PM »
Anyone in the Lakewood, NJ area that can fix/replace a water-damaged screen of a LG Classic?
What would the approximate cost be?
Thanks.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2552 on: June 27, 2023, 03:47:35 PM »
In this case I first had the LG Classic, then got new sim card with a TCL and then put the TCL sim card into the LG Classic. At that point the pic text stopped working on the LG Classic.

So the issue is with the phone? Would resetting the phone help (although not sure if the filter would allow that)?

Did you switch to boost on the phone that had an issue? In other words, if I unlock the phone and switch to a different service would the pic texting start working again?
Sorry, I had all texts stop working. Pic texts you know there are APN settings in the phone, maybe that's it
I bought a new phone for Boost, not the same phone

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2553 on: June 27, 2023, 10:59:25 PM »
Anyone in the Lakewood, NJ area that can fix/replace a water-damaged screen of a LG Classic?
What would the approximate cost be?
Thanks.
try +1-248-284-3054
Or +1-732-330-3038

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« Reply #2554 on: June 29, 2023, 05:28:06 PM »
try +1-248-284-3054
Or +1-732-330-3038
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2555 on: June 30, 2023, 01:00:52 PM »
Anyone with experience on the Kyocera 4811? Is it much better than the 4810? how does it compare to 4610?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2556 on: July 01, 2023, 09:56:09 PM »
Anyone with experience on the Kyocera 4811? Is it much better than the 4810? how does it compare to 4610?
4811 Worst- Terrible T9
4810 Bad- Slow messaging app
4610 Good- Same as Kyocera Cadence S2720

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2557 on: July 02, 2023, 10:18:05 PM »
Anyone in the Lakewood, NJ area that can fix/replace a water-damaged screen of a LG Classic?
What would the approximate cost be?
Thanks.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2558 on: July 02, 2023, 10:44:36 PM »
Are there any recommendations nowadays for a cheap-ish flip phone that is kosher-able and works with tmobile?

For someone whose Schok phone just went. We can order a new one of the same but it wasn't an amazing phone all along, I'm wondering what else is out there.

TIA
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2559 on: July 02, 2023, 11:01:17 PM »
If you still need someone I have a number for you.
He should have parts in for that mod3l.
Can you please PM?