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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 488560 times)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2600 on: August 07, 2023, 07:28:21 PM »
Can I add a buisness (non personal) outlook office365 email account, to the Gmail app on the Qin F30?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2601 on: August 09, 2023, 01:18:05 AM »
Though not a flip phone, rather a slide phone. I loved using my Nokia c3-02

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2602 on: August 09, 2023, 11:16:32 AM »
TCL Flip Go 4058W
Is it this one?
Could this one be filtered?
https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/tcl-flip-go

There is no model # online

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2603 on: August 09, 2023, 03:48:12 PM »
anybody here familiar with the number share program from verizon that lets you use one phone number on 2 devices?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2604 on: August 09, 2023, 04:04:59 PM »
What is the best way to transfer contacts in bulk from my iphone to a Kosher phone?

I just ordered the TCL Flip 2 so hoping i can do it on that one if there's a phone that it works better with i can still return it

TIA

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2605 on: August 09, 2023, 10:58:29 PM »
anybody here familiar with the number share program from verizon that lets you use one phone number on 2 devices?
Yes it requires a compatible device
https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/mobile/numbershare-mobile/

What is the best way to transfer contacts in bulk from my iphone to a Kosher phone?

I just ordered the TCL Flip 2 so hoping i can do it on that one if there's a phone that it works better with i can still return it

TIA

Login to iCloud from a pc and download the file and transfer via cable/Bluetooth, or download an app that can send the vCard as a mms or email to your pc, and then transfer via cable/Bluetooth.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2606 on: August 10, 2023, 05:43:54 PM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2607 on: August 10, 2023, 06:46:34 PM »
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2608 on: August 10, 2023, 10:02:00 PM »
I just bought the Kyocera xtreme flip from Amazon. I bought the att and Verizon version.
I can’t get the internet (for emails) or mms working with my T-Mobile chip. I changed the pan to fast.T-Mobile.com. It shows 4g on the screen but for some reason I’m not getting any internet. The mms is not working either even after I changed it to http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc.
Does anyone have any ideas? I’m in Monsey if that makes a difference.

Thank you

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2609 on: August 11, 2023, 12:18:13 AM »
I just bought the Kyocera xtreme flip from Amazon. I bought the att and Verizon version.
I can’t get the internet (for emails) or mms working with my T-Mobile chip. I changed the pan to fast.T-Mobile.com. It shows 4g on the screen but for some reason I’m not getting any internet. The mms is not working either even after I changed it to http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc.
Does anyone have any ideas? I’m in Monsey if that makes a difference.

Thank you
Which model did you buy? Exact model number please.
Meanwhile make sure this is also filled out:

APN Type: default,supl,mms

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2610 on: August 11, 2023, 06:00:03 AM »
isn't it very slow?
Its definitely not as quick as the LGs or Kyocera's but its usable unlike then the Alcatels. A lot of the issues the phone has have been fixed when getting it filtered. For full disclosure I built custom filters for this type of phone, they can be found for free on Apps4Flip.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2611 on: August 11, 2023, 10:38:14 AM »
Which model did you buy? Exact model number please.
Meanwhile make sure this is also filled out:

APN Type: default,supl,mms
Thanks I bought the dura ex and Xbox (4830 and 4810)neither are working

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2612 on: August 12, 2023, 09:30:22 PM »
Thanks I bought the dura ex and Xbox (4830 and 4810)neither are working
Did you fill out every field exactly like the tmobile site?
I have got many to work with the correct settings...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2613 on: August 14, 2023, 12:31:06 PM »
Has anyone tried the Punkt phone?

Looking into it for a friend.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2614 on: August 17, 2023, 06:07:33 PM »
Yes it requires a compatible device
https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/mobile/numbershare-mobile/

Login to iCloud from a pc and download the file and transfer via cable/Bluetooth, or download an app that can send the vCard as a mms or email to your pc, and then transfer via cable/Bluetooth.
I saw the light phone might be compatible. Anybody try this

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2615 on: August 17, 2023, 06:23:16 PM »
A free website for flip phones! Since apps4flip seems to be getting ready to close and the forums already did close, we built a new website to accommodate all of those needs! Keep in mind- the website isn't finished and we are adding new things every day. There may be bugs that we will have to fix. We have all the things apps4flip did plus more. We will very soon have a section with Kosher ROMs. Some will be free and some will have a cost. The free 'basic' ones will kasher your phone plus have an app or two. The 'premium' ROMs will be a finished product to make your phone work perfectly. And there is more... come check us out at kosherflip.org and our forums at forums.kosherflip.org.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2616 on: August 20, 2023, 07:46:31 PM »
We had an issue with email verification on our forums, but everyone who created or creates an account for the time being will have their account automatically activated. Enjoy! https://forums.kosherflip.org

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2617 on: August 22, 2023, 07:55:06 PM »
Has anyone tried the Punkt phone?

Looking into it for a friend.
From my experience, this phone boasts a sturdy build that can withstand wear and tear. However, it may not be the best option for those who prioritize ease of use. With only a limited number of buttons, accessing all settings and functions could prove difficult.
If you are in need of a durable phone, this could be a suitable choice for you. But if user-friendliness is a top priority, you may want to consider other options.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2618 on: August 25, 2023, 09:51:18 AM »
I had a kyocera e4610 for 3 years have been really happy with it. Recently it started randomly turning off, incoming calls stopped working. Found the same phone on ebay new-open box for $200. Is this my best option for a quality flip phone without paying over $350.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2619 on: August 25, 2023, 02:49:49 PM »
Yes. Just make sure they have a return policy, in case the phone is not performing well