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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 642583 times)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2620 on: August 29, 2023, 12:32:40 PM »
What’s a cheap flip phone that runs on a cheap carrier that uses Verizon ?

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« Reply #2621 on: August 30, 2023, 11:36:36 AM »
What’s a cheap flip phone that runs on a cheap carrier that uses Verizon ?
Could even be ATT Or T-Mobile

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2622 on: August 30, 2023, 01:33:33 PM »
What’s a cheap flip phone that runs on a cheap carrier that uses Verizon ?
Tcl Flip 2. $20 from Tracfone. Tracfone runs on Verizon.

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« Reply #2623 on: August 30, 2023, 01:50:12 PM »
Could even be ATT Or T-Mobile
TCL flip 2. Get unlocked and put on Hello Mobile for $5 a month.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2624 on: August 30, 2023, 02:08:12 PM »
TCL flip 2. Get unlocked and put on Hello Mobile for $5 a month.
I don’t want web, just talk & text. Is this phone ok ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2625 on: August 30, 2023, 02:57:49 PM »
I don’t want web, just talk & text. Is this phone ok ?
It comes with a browser. All cheap 4g phones come with a browser. Tag can remove the browser for you. You can also do it yourself by following the guide on Apps4Flip/Apps4FlipForums.

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« Reply #2626 on: August 30, 2023, 03:21:31 PM »
TCL flip 2.
Do you have a link for one that’s compatible with hello mobile ?

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« Reply #2627 on: August 30, 2023, 04:25:10 PM »
Do you have a link for one that’s compatible with hello mobile ?
EBay US Cellular Version Is unlocked and should work with Hello Mobile. (No need to get the one in the link I provided. Any US Cellular version should work. It should cost you $25-$35.) The filters from Tag and Apps4Flip may not work on this version, but I have a working software with no browser for this version also.

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« Reply #2628 on: August 30, 2023, 04:51:06 PM »
EBay US Cellular Version Is unlocked and should work with Hello Mobile. (No need to get the one in the link I provided. Any US Cellular version should work. It should cost you $25-$35.) The filters from Tag and Apps4Flip may not work on this version, but I have a working software with no browser for this version also.
Would TAG be able to remove the web entirely off it ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2629 on: September 11, 2023, 02:33:03 PM »
Which non smart phone has only whatsapp? Looking for a kosher phone that has whatsapp messenger
I know its been a while, but don't see that anyone replied

Devices running KaiOS should have Whatsapp, as long as running version 2.5 (or maybe as long as less than version 3.0).
For example TCL Flip 2

You can find on eBay, and can also message them first, sometimes they know if has Whatsapp, or at least which OS version its running.
If you're ok with a carrier locked phone, often the Tracfone or Verizon phones from have Whatsapp.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2630 on: September 11, 2023, 02:34:50 PM »
anybody here familiar with the number share program from verizon that lets you use one phone number on 2 devices?
I'm very familiar with the Att program. It has to be a select list of compatible devices, which means not just another cell phone.

But it does work, I'm using it on an Alexa as a land line...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2631 on: September 11, 2023, 02:49:56 PM »
Can Google Voice be side loaded to the TCL flip 2?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2632 on: September 11, 2023, 04:45:33 PM »
Can Google Voice be side loaded to the TCL flip 2?
Yes. Its not simple though. It can be done with Magisk Gapps or its possible to modify the firmware and add MicroG.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2633 on: September 11, 2023, 10:01:49 PM »
Did anyone have success installing Verizon Message plus on the new Kyocera DuraXV Extreme+ ??
I was able to do it on the old version but on this phone it keeps crashing.
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« Reply #2634 on: September 11, 2023, 11:13:48 PM »
Is there a verizon equivalent to the CAT s22?

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« Reply #2635 on: September 11, 2023, 11:51:42 PM »
Yes. Its not simple though. It can be done with Magisk Gapps or its possible to modify the firmware and add MicroG.
Do you know anyone who does it or where I can read up more about it?
I don't see voice on the list on GitHub

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« Reply #2636 on: September 12, 2023, 07:20:08 AM »
Do you know anyone who does it or where I can read up more about it?
I don't see voice on the list on GitHub
The only one that I know who does it is myself. You can read up how to root the phone and get magisk here. You can then use the basic magisk gapps and manually install google voice afterwards.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2637 on: October 01, 2023, 04:05:23 PM »
Good Year folks.
I am considering seriously switching to a flip phone, however, as I am not in the US, it would need to be an Unlocked one.
I really want an android os (for the ease of dealing with contacts and to support hebrew and other languages).
I do not need whatsapp or browsing capabilities.
Thanks a lot.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2638 on: October 01, 2023, 04:31:38 PM »
Good Year folks.
I am considering seriously switching to a flip phone, however, as I am not in the US, it would need to be an Unlocked one.
I really want an android os (for the ease of dealing with contacts and to support hebrew and other languages).
I do not need whatsapp or browsing capabilities.
Thanks a lot.
My go to is the TCL Flip 2. It has its quirks and is not as quick as the expensive ones. However it runs android and has the ability to add apps and other customizations. You can get one unlocked from eBay for around $25-30.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2639 on: October 01, 2023, 04:42:35 PM »
My go to is the TCL Flip 2. It has its quirks and is not as quick as the expensive ones. However it runs android and has the ability to add apps and other customizations. You can get one unlocked from eBay for around $25-30.


Thanks a lot. This one seems locked.

It works smoothly, or feels like it lags a bit ? (drives me nuts)