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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 640792 times)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2760 on: March 04, 2024, 07:47:21 PM »
What's your APN settings?
Vzw internet  etc.
Is there something i can change them to to make it work?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2761 on: March 04, 2024, 08:31:17 PM »
Anyone have any reviews on the Nokia 2720 V flip? Its only $79 from verizon and could be tagged. Is it a good phone?
I bought it, Its junk. Returning it

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2762 on: March 04, 2024, 08:33:13 PM »
I bought it, Its junk. Returning it
there's hardly any good flip phones. If any.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2763 on: March 05, 2024, 12:47:16 AM »
Any reviews on the Kyocera DuraXV Extreme+?
Is it a good phone?
Family member previously had the Cadence and lg exalt and loved both of them but isn't careful with them and they both eventually broke. This one looks pretty rugged and durable but how does it compare to those other 2 I mentioned which are probably the two best basic flip phones out there?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2764 on: March 05, 2024, 12:57:26 AM »
Vzw internet  etc.
Is there something i can change them to to make it work?
A bit more detailed would be helpful.

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Select OK
Select “APN” and populate the field with: pwg
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Select “MMSC” and add “pwg.” so that the field reads: “http://pwg.mmsmvno.com/mms/wapenc”
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2765 on: March 05, 2024, 01:02:00 AM »
Any reviews on the Kyocera DuraXV Extreme+?
Is it a good phone?
Family member previously had the Cadence and lg exalt and loved both of them but isn't careful with them and they both eventually broke. This one looks pretty rugged and durable but how does it compare to those other 2 I mentioned which are probably the two best basic flip phones out there?

From the wiki:

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.
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The one you mentioned is the newer version, its almost identical to the E4180, just with a much worse XT9.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2766 on: March 05, 2024, 01:23:23 AM »
The one you mentioned is the newer version, its almost identical to the E4180, just with a much worse XT9.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2767 on: March 05, 2024, 01:43:01 AM »
Any reviews on the Kyocera DuraXV Extreme+?
Is it a good phone?
Family member previously had the Cadence and lg exalt and loved both of them but isn't careful with them and they both eventually broke. This one looks pretty rugged and durable but how does it compare to those other 2 I mentioned which are probably the two best basic flip phones out there?
I'll definitely agree that those 2 are from the best flip phones out there. I personally liked the exalt the best, and would even pay someone to fix it as even the cadence isn't as great. The phone your inquiring abt, which is the e4810 is very big and clunky, definitely slower then the exalt, and the messaging system is very bad on that phone, it doesn't have message plus ,like the exalt or the e4610. The e4610 is better then the e4810.

If I were you, I would no question abt it fix the exalt, once you anyways have to spend the money buying a new phone. As you mentioned, the family member isn't careful, so then maybe I wouldn't bother fixing it and would go with the e4610...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2768 on: March 05, 2024, 01:46:33 PM »
I'll definitely agree that those 2 are from the best flip phones out there. I personally liked the exalt the best, and would even pay someone to fix it as even the cadence isn't as great. The phone your inquiring abt, which is the e4810 is very big and clunky, definitely slower then the exalt, and the messaging system is very bad on that phone, it doesn't have message plus ,like the exalt or the e4610. The e4610 is better then the e4810.

If I were you, I would no question abt it fix the exalt, once you anyways have to spend the money buying a new phone. As you mentioned, the family member isn't careful, so then maybe I wouldn't bother fixing it and would go with the e4610...

Agree but with a caveat, don't fix unless the rest of the phone is in decent shape, otherwise your just pouring into a money pit.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2769 on: March 05, 2024, 01:58:19 PM »
Agree but with a caveat, don't fix unless the rest of the phone is in decent shape, otherwise your just pouring into a money pit.
Most things can be fixed.. With the exception of I think water damage. He can also change the front and back cover to make it look brand new... But the caveat is how careful you are (as mentioned above the person isn't careful...)
If you should decide to fix it, I would definitely recommend @myi , a friend of mind used him, he was very happy with him... His contact info is his signature...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2770 on: March 05, 2024, 08:12:56 PM »
A bit more detailed would be helpful.
@yossi are you telling me these details because thats the apn i should try or are u saying i should tell u what of those details my phonee is set now

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2771 on: March 05, 2024, 09:13:07 PM »
Any reviews on the Kyocera DuraXV Extreme+?
Is it a good phone?
Family member previously had the Cadence and lg exalt and loved both of them but isn't careful with them and they both eventually broke. This one looks pretty rugged and durable but how does it compare to those other 2 I mentioned which are probably the two best basic flip phones out there?
That was my last phone. Paid full price and with in a few months the phone kept shutting off texting app barely worked and kept getting some error message... also extremely bulky.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2772 on: March 06, 2024, 01:25:39 AM »
@yossi are you telling me these details because thats the apn i should try or are u saying i should tell u what of those details my phonee is set now
Yes.

Btw it looks like you got my name wrong ;)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2773 on: March 06, 2024, 07:36:40 PM »
Would it make sense that the Tracfone TCL Flip, which are supposed to be locked, are not. I tried the Unlock and it says "Device Unlocked". Brand new phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2774 on: March 06, 2024, 08:04:29 PM »
Would it make sense that the Tracfone TCL Flip, which are supposed to be locked, are not. I tried the Unlock and it says "Device Unlocked". Brand new phone.
Did you buy the phone directly from tracfone?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2775 on: March 06, 2024, 08:14:02 PM »
Yes.

Btw it looks like you got my name wrong ;)

I tried the apn you quoted but it didnt change anything...
Any ideas

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2776 on: March 06, 2024, 08:35:44 PM »
Did you buy the phone directly from tracfone?
Yes

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2777 on: March 06, 2024, 08:58:40 PM »
Yes
Did you open it as soon as you received it?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2778 on: March 06, 2024, 09:02:49 PM »
Did you open it as soon as you received it?
Yes. Got it today.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2779 on: March 06, 2024, 09:11:09 PM »
Yes. Got it today.
Aha. Interesting... They do unlock it for you after 2 months of their service. So perhaps it was a phone that someone bought and put service on, but never used and returned... Resulting in you getting an unlocked phone...

Did you put in a SIM card of another carrier? It works?