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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.

4811 Worst- Terrible T9
4810 Bad- Slow messaging app
4610 Good- Same as Kyocera Cadence S2720

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3020 on: August 18, 2024, 09:31:47 AM »
Device is SIM Locked
You bought the phone unlocked?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3021 on: August 18, 2024, 09:39:19 AM »
You bought the phone unlocked?
No. Brand new. activated it on Tracfone, after 60 days called 1-888-442-5102 to unlock it, and was told that they unlocked it

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3022 on: August 18, 2024, 10:42:39 AM »
No. Brand new. activated it on Tracfone, after 60 days called 1-888-442-5102 to unlock it, and was told that they unlocked it
Did they give you the unlock codes ?

Go to this website https://www.tfwunlockpolicy.com/wps/portal/home/!ut/p/a1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOK9LV0tDC0NDL39zX1NDBxDHb2dnLy9DAwMzPXD9aPASgxwAEcD_YLsbEUAhnbw8Q!!/dl5/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3023 on: August 18, 2024, 10:52:20 AM »
No. Brand new. activated it on Tracfone, after 60 days called 1-888-442-5102 to unlock it, and was told that they unlocked it
They should have sent you an email with the codes... It has to be done by you manually...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3024 on: August 18, 2024, 11:43:09 AM »
Did they give you the unlock codes ?

Go to this website https://www.tfwunlockpolicy.com/wps/portal/home/!ut/p/a1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOK9LV0tDC0NDL39zX1NDBxDHb2dnLy9DAwMzPXD9aPASgxwAEcD_YLsbEUAhnbw8Q!!/dl5/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/
Follow directions. You should get the codes
Please report back.
They should have sent you an email with the codes... It has to be done by you manually...

I tried it online but when I enter name/phone/email address and submi,t it comes back to the original page, not to the usual confirmation page, and nothing arrives to email. I called the number, they told me that they unlocked it and I should just restart the phone

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3025 on: August 19, 2024, 12:13:32 PM »
I tried it online but when I enter name/phone/email address and submi,t it comes back to the original page, not to the usual confirmation page, and nothing arrives to email. I called the number, they told me that they unlocked it and I should just restart the phone
From my experience with Tracfone customer service, some are good, and some are just out right stupid. Sometimes you gotta do huca, until you get one that understands you, and ask them to email you the unlocking codes...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3026 on: August 19, 2024, 07:23:06 PM »
I tried it online but when I enter name/phone/email address and submi,t it comes back to the original page, not to the usual confirmation page, and nothing arrives to email. I called the number, they told me that they unlocked it and I should just restart the phone
On the flip phone end. I have yet to see the manual unlock work. You still need to get the codes.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3027 on: August 19, 2024, 10:18:08 PM »
Device is SIM Locked
Seems you may have to factory Reset that phone. And that should get the device unlocked.  Because it's showing as unlocked.    Thats Assuming powering it off overnight and then on again in the am doesn't work to have the device refresh and show unlocked. Honestly you may want to try slipping the old sim card into the device. Make a call or two and then power off the device. And try in the am with the tracfone sim. Being that it's all done automatically now. The phone will have to connect to the network somehow. @TBD
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3028 on: August 20, 2024, 12:36:50 PM »
Seems you may have to factory Reset that phone. And that should get the device unlocked.  Because it's showing as unlocked.    Thats Assuming powering it off overnight and then on again in the am doesn't work to have the device refresh and show unlocked. Honestly you may want to try slipping the old sim card into the device. Make a call or two and then power off the device. And try in the am with the tracfone sim. Being that it's all done automatically now. The phone will have to connect to the network somehow. @TBD
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3029 on: August 20, 2024, 05:00:44 PM »
Worked?
No. Had battery removed for 12 hrs and then did factory reset, still showing device is SIM locked

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3030 on: August 27, 2024, 12:09:51 AM »
Any way to take texting off a LG Classic, and put it back on at a later date, w/o having to factory reset the phone?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3031 on: August 27, 2024, 12:15:54 AM »
No. Had battery removed for 12 hrs and then did factory reset, still showing device is SIM locked
At this point call back the unlocking department and have them guide you on what to do next, or you may need to contact TCL directly(the manufacture) and see what they recommend. definitely strange.
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« Reply #3032 on: August 27, 2024, 12:25:16 AM »
At this point call back the unlocking department and have them guide you on what to do next, or you may need to contact TCL directly(the manufacture) and see what they recommend. definitely strange.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3033 on: August 27, 2024, 12:27:26 AM »
Any way to take texting off a LG Classic, and put it back on at a later date, w/o having to factory reset the phone?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3034 on: August 27, 2024, 03:20:21 AM »
Any way to take texting off a LG Classic, and put it back on at a later date, w/o having to factory reset the phone?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3035 on: August 30, 2024, 05:53:11 PM »
Is there still a strong interest in a guide and software for the TCL t408dl (4058L,R,W,L)?

If yes (I will judge based on likes to this post;) I will start a new thread with an updated guide and my updated Roms (Which I dont have fully worked out at this point)

Can you please send the links to the ROMs posted here: https://forums.apps4flip.com/d/693-instructions-for-installing-a-kosher-rom-on-tcl-flip2classic-t408dl
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3037 on: September 01, 2024, 01:22:58 PM »
What's the key difference between the 4810 and 4610?

4610
-Works in Isreal.
-message plus, better messaging app and easier to use.
-smaller phone.
-not a usb C.
-smaller than the 4810(that's a bit clunkier.)

Vs the 4810.
-Horrible messaging app
-big and clunky
-Has USB C.
-New device
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3038 on: September 02, 2024, 11:09:54 AM »
Some decent flip phone plans. Nothing crazy. But another option.

https://www.ebay.com/str/jethroelectronics?_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3039 on: September 02, 2024, 05:30:39 PM »
What's the key difference between the 4810 and 4610?

4610
-Works in Isreal.
-message plus, better messaging app and easier to use.
-smaller phone.
-not a usb C.
-smaller than the 4810(that's a bit clunkier.)

Vs the 4810.
-Horrible messaging app
-big and clunky
-Has USB C.
-New device

I actually just got a 4610 after using a 4810 for the last two years