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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.

4811 Worst- Terrible T9
4810 Bad- Slow messaging app
4610 Good- Same as Kyocera Cadence S2720

« Last edited by myi on January 19, 2025, 12:56:35 AM »

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Will they have it in Blue too ?
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Will they have it in Blue too ?
Why would they do that?
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I have a couple of inactive Alcatels (that I use for alarm clocks/music) and Machene Kadosh won't certify us unless we get rid of the theoretical internet capability. They charge $30 and TAG charges $15. I don't think I would want to keep them if those are the only options. Is there any way to self-filter or remove the browsers from these phones?
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« Reply #3044 on: September 10, 2024, 04:56:36 PM »
I have a couple of inactive Alcatels (that I use for alarm clocks/music) and Machene Kadosh won't certify us unless we get rid of the theoretical internet capability. They charge $30 and TAG charges $15. I don't think I would want to keep them if those are the only options. Is there any way to self-filter or remove the browsers from these phones?
Which model? GoFlip 3? 2?

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« Reply #3045 on: September 10, 2024, 07:54:16 PM »
Anyone using these phones? First time seeing this company.  Bingo brand?

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Which model? GoFlip 3? 2?
1 is Model:40440
the other is Model:U102AA
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« Reply #3047 on: September 11, 2024, 12:41:54 AM »
Anyone using these phones? First time seeing this company.  Bingo brand?



Not a Bingo brand, Mindful Phone, been around for a bit already. Thats a pretty good deal, if you already have service, otherwise US Mobile has it for 279$ including a year of free service. Overall phone seems ok, and nice to see the company standing behind the products with software updates. And improvements. Note the lack of Directional keys (so you have to use the touchscreen for all tasks), and no Waze/Maps.

https://greentouchstore.com/products/mindful-talk-and-text-mind-phone-kosher-phone
https://www.usmobile.com/shop/product/mindful-kosher-phone/Mindful-Kosher-Phone-BL

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« Reply #3048 on: September 11, 2024, 12:45:00 AM »
Not a Bingo brand, Mindful Phone, been around for a bit already.


Right. Is it a good phone though?

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« Reply #3049 on: September 11, 2024, 01:27:30 AM »
Not a Bingo brand, Mindful Phone, been around for a bit already. Thats a pretty good deal, if you already have service, otherwise US Mobile has it for 279$ including a year of free service. Overall phone seems ok, and nice to see the company standing behind the products with software updates. And improvements. Note the lack of Directional keys (so you have to use the touchscreen for all tasks), and no Waze/Maps.

https://greentouchstore.com/products/mindful-talk-and-text-mind-phone-kosher-phone
https://www.usmobile.com/shop/product/mindful-kosher-phone/Mindful-Kosher-Phone-BL

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I see that now it's in the wiki.
And cool site showing all the flip phones out there. Insane amount of flip phones out there.
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

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« Reply #3050 on: September 11, 2024, 02:25:45 PM »
Where can one get a Qin phone from besides ebay?
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« Reply #3051 on: September 16, 2024, 02:35:31 PM »
If anyone can help me with this would be greatly appreciated!

I live in EY, and I'm coming to the US for sukkos.

My American number is sitting in Google Voice for the time being.
I am looking for a "kosher phone" that I can download the Google Voice app to use for talk/text, then block the browser/app store and then use a US SIM card (or E-Sim app) for data to power Google Voice.

Last time I was home, I ported my number from Google Voice to Verizon for Pesach, but it was a huge headache and I had to pay porting fees both ways so I don't want to do that again.

Someone suggested Qin, but not sure if it works in America + not sure what the story is with getting it TAGged?

Few pointers:
  • Needs to be capable of supporting a SIM card (or E-Sim) that would work for data in the USA and Canada
  • Must be TAGable (or can easily have the browser blocked myself)
  • Trying to not spend more than $125 or so
  • No, I do not want to just get an old iPhone and block the browser

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« Reply #3052 on: September 16, 2024, 03:04:17 PM »
Where can one get a Qin phone from besides ebay?
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« Reply #3053 on: September 16, 2024, 03:07:57 PM »
If anyone can help me with this would be greatly appreciated!

I live in EY, and I'm coming to the US for sukkos.

My American number is sitting in Google Voice for the time being.
I am looking for a "kosher phone" that I can download the Google Voice app to use for talk/text, then block the browser/app store and then use a US SIM card (or E-Sim app) for data to power Google Voice.

Last time I was home, I ported my number from Google Voice to Verizon for Pesach, but it was a huge headache and I had to pay porting fees both ways so I don't want to do that again.

Someone suggested Qin, but not sure if it works in America + not sure what the story is with getting it TAGged?

Few pointers:
  • Needs to be capable of supporting a SIM card (or E-Sim) that would work for data in the USA and Canada
  • Must be TAGable (or can easily have the browser blocked myself)
  • Trying to not spend more than $125 or so
  • No, I do not want to just get an old iPhone and block the browser
If just forwarding calls doesn’t do, then https://a.co/d/gAVmnUe Works with all 3 US carriers just not on the ATT “list” if your familiar… comes with student mode similar to apple’s restrictions built in.

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« Reply #3054 on: September 16, 2024, 03:31:09 PM »
If just forwarding calls doesn’t do, then https://a.co/d/gAVmnUe Works with all 3 US carriers just not on the ATT “list” if your familiar… comes with student mode similar to apple’s restrictions built in.
Thanks!!

So I can just get a prepaid Verizon or Tmobile data SIM (for US & Canada) and it should work on here?
It's got full app store (meaning, it for sure can support google voice)?
And the student mode is foolproof parental control that can block browser and app store?

Do you know of anywhere to get used/refurbished for cheaper (Ebay didn't have much...)

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« Reply #3055 on: September 16, 2024, 04:11:14 PM »
So I can just get a prepaid Verizon or Tmobile data SIM (for US & Canada) and it should work on here?
Yes, I’d recommend US mobile though, they have 10gb roaming in Canada included on their T-Mobile or ATT Unlimited $44 plans. USM ATT works in any phone there’s no whitelist.
It's got full app store (meaning, it for sure can support google voice)?
And the student mode is foolproof parental control that can block browser and app store?
Yes I use GV on it.
Yes foolproof [for me, but I’m no hacker.]
Do you know of anywhere to get used/refurbished for cheaper (Ebay didn't have much...)

No clue. But I wouldn’t buy a non higher end phone like this refurbished…


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« Reply #3056 on: September 17, 2024, 08:27:39 AM »
Yes, I’d recommend US mobile though, they have 10gb roaming in Canada included on their T-Mobile or ATT Unlimited $44 plans. USM ATT works in any phone there’s no whitelist.Yes I use GV on it.
Yes foolproof [for me, but I’m no hacker.]
No clue. But I wouldn’t buy a non higher end phone like this refurbished…
Would the Unihertz Jelly 2 do the same job as the Jelly Star?

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« Reply #3057 on: September 17, 2024, 12:19:48 PM »
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« Reply #3058 on: September 17, 2024, 02:21:56 PM »
Any physical sim works in it.

For Ali Idk, try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3059 on: September 26, 2024, 11:45:37 AM »
Anyone using these phones? First time seeing this company.  Bingo brand?

can you install APKs on this phone?