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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3080 on: November 27, 2024, 02:19:31 PM »
Since the waze that came with the ROM i currently have installed no longer works and i have no way of installing a new waze. I'm totally stuck.

Someone I know has the tcl with waze from koshercell. They told me the waze stopped working. Do they use the same ROM as yours?

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« Reply #3081 on: November 27, 2024, 02:21:48 PM »
Someone I know has the tcl with waze from koshercell. They told me the waze stopped working. Do they use the same ROM as yours?
My waze on LG Classic stopped working recently. Also koshercell. Maybe it's related... I can see the map of where I am but can't navigate anywhere.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3082 on: November 27, 2024, 02:26:25 PM »
My waze on LG Classic stopped working recently. Also koshercell. Maybe it's related... I can see the map of where I am but can't navigate anywhere.

It seems waze on the exalt is also having issues. Check this (https://www.jtechforums.org/t/waze-on-lg-exalt/245/25) out.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3083 on: November 27, 2024, 02:37:34 PM »
My Waze on cat also doesn’t work. Was gonna go into gentech sometime to see why

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« Reply #3084 on: November 27, 2024, 02:39:15 PM »
My Waze on cat also doesn’t work. Was gonna go into gentech sometime to see why
And I was thinking of calling TAG
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3085 on: November 27, 2024, 11:12:12 PM »
Has anyone here pre-ordered the Light Phone 3?

I pre-ordered one. Been wanting to try a two-phone setup but never really found a phone that fit everything I need. On paper the LP3 seems to get pretty close to what I want, so I want to give it a try. Based on an update email that they sent yesterday, I assume I'll get mine in late Feb or Mar.

PSA- If anyone was considering placing an order, pricing is changing from $499 to $599 after Dec 2.

(Yes, it's expensive. But I really want to give the two-phone setup a try, and I think this might be my best shot at making it work, so I was willing to spend what it takes.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3086 on: November 28, 2024, 07:06:23 PM »
My Waze on cat also doesn’t work. Was gonna go into gentech sometime to see why
Here's the new apps4flip forum.

https://www.jtechforums.org/t/waze-on-lg-exalt/245/25

Like meantioned in the link. Seems the old version is not supported anymore.
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« Reply #3087 on: November 28, 2024, 07:13:57 PM »
Here's the new apps4flip forum.

https://www.jtechforums.org/t/waze-on-lg-exalt/245/25

Like meantioned in the link. Seems the old version is not supported anymore.
Anyone know if KosherCell needs to push an update or if TAG could help or if we're just stuck?
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« Reply #3088 on: November 28, 2024, 07:18:54 PM »
Anyone know if KosherCell needs to push an update or if TAG could help or if we're just stuck?
If they originally installed it. They can definitely help by installing the latest version 
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3089 on: November 28, 2024, 07:38:17 PM »
If they originally installed it. They can definitely help by installing the latest version

If they installed a kosher ROM on it it won't be as simple as you make it to just install the latest version. They will have to put the new waze on a new ROM and then install it. I hope they have a way to put a new ROM on. I believe everything gets deleted so there goes everyone's text and call history.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3090 on: November 28, 2024, 07:41:31 PM »
The old version of Waze which most flip phones were running on stopped working so most flip phones no longer have Waze. All the filters are trying to come out with solutions but many of them will not be able to push updates remotely.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3091 on: November 28, 2024, 07:48:36 PM »
Has anyone here pre-ordered the Light Phone 3?

I pre-ordered one. Been wanting to try a two-phone setup but never really found a phone that fit everything I need. On paper the LP3 seems to get pretty close to what I want, so I want to give it a try. Based on an update email that they sent yesterday, I assume I'll get mine in late Feb or Mar.

PSA- If anyone was considering placing an order, pricing is changing from $499 to $599 after Dec 2.

(Yes, it's expensive. But I really want to give the two-phone setup a try, and I think this might be my best shot at making it work, so I was willing to spend what it takes.)
Looks horrible to me. I have not heard great reviews of the previous versions. What specifically do you like about it and what about it makes it easier for the 2 phone setup?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3092 on: November 28, 2024, 08:12:15 PM »
Has anyone here pre-ordered the Light Phone 3?

I pre-ordered one. Been wanting to try a two-phone setup but never really found a phone that fit everything I need. On paper the LP3 seems to get pretty close to what I want, so I want to give it a try. Based on an update email that they sent yesterday, I assume I'll get mine in late Feb or Mar.

PSA- If anyone was considering placing an order, pricing is changing from $499 to $599 after Dec 2.

(Yes, it's expensive. But I really want to give the two-phone setup a try, and I think this might be my best shot at making it work, so I was willing to spend what it takes.)
No Waze/g maps? Why?

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« Reply #3093 on: November 28, 2024, 08:13:39 PM »
The old version of Waze which most flip phones were running on stopped working so most flip phones no longer have Waze. All the filters are trying to come out with solutions but many of them will not be able to push updates remotely.
I'm pretty sure koshercell pushes filter updates, so hopefully they can do that with waze as well. I guess it's worth a call to tag before going down.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3094 on: December 01, 2024, 07:47:19 PM »
Any reviews on the Hit phone?
It Jewish made and has a sliding keyboard

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« Reply #3095 on: December 01, 2024, 10:10:34 PM »
Any reviews on the Hit phone?
It Jewish made and has a sliding keyboard
I tried it out for a week or so about 1.5 years ago. I don't remember the specifics but I remember not being impressed. IIRC it was made very cheaply and the buttons didn't press nicely. It could be there is a newer model since then with improvements.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3096 on: December 03, 2024, 11:29:33 PM »
Easy way to get all contacts off iPhone to flip phone (cadence)?

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« Reply #3097 on: December 04, 2024, 02:36:37 AM »
Easy way to get all contacts off iPhone to flip phone (cadence)?
I think uploading to google contacts and then downloading on computer onto sd card

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