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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.

4811 Worst- Terrible T9
4810 Bad- Slow messaging app
4610 Good- Same as Kyocera Cadence S2720

« Last edited by myi on January 19, 2025, 12:56:35 AM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3120 on: December 19, 2024, 11:21:11 AM »
I saw a new phone advertised from tak talk it looks like a kosher qin knockoff, anyone with any info? will it be modifiable?
also, what is the overlay permission for the mouse called for lg classic?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3121 on: December 19, 2024, 12:51:55 PM »
I saw a new phone advertised from tak talk it looks like a kosher qin knockoff, anyone with any info? will it be modifiable?
also, what is the overlay permission for the mouse called for lg classic?

TIA!
What is the mouse your using called?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3122 on: December 19, 2024, 01:11:17 PM »
What is the mouse your using called?
I think it's the apps4flip mouse or maybe it's called MATVT but either way wouldn't the permission name be the same?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3123 on: December 19, 2024, 01:17:12 PM »
I think it's the apps4flip mouse or maybe it's called MATVT but either way wouldn't the permission name be the same?
You can find all the commands here (https://www.apps4flip.com/apps/).

If your not using that mouse then replace each time it says "com.android.cts.appsflipcursor" with your package name.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3124 on: December 19, 2024, 01:36:41 PM »
You can find all the commands here (https://www.apps4flip.com/apps/).

If your not using that mouse then replace each time it says "com.android.cts.appsflipcursor" with your package name.
Thank you, I would've gone straight to apps4flip but I don't have internet access, that's why I asked here. Is it WRITE_SECURE_SYSTEM?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3125 on: December 19, 2024, 01:38:39 PM »
Thank you, I would've gone straight to apps4flip but I don't have internet access, that's why I asked here. Is it WRITE_SECURE_SYSTEM?

*General internet access... So far we are here on the Internet...

The commands listed there are:
Code: [Select]
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.lge.voicecommand
 appops set com.android.cts.appsflipcursor SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW allow
 settings put secure accessibility_enabled 1
 settings put secure enabled_accessibility_services com.android.cts.appsflipcursor/com.android.cts.appsflipcursor.services.MouseEventService
 am startservice com.android.cts.appsflipcursor/com.android.cts.appsflipcursor.services.MouseEventService

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3126 on: December 19, 2024, 02:18:55 PM »
*General internet access... So far we are here on the Internet...

The commands listed there are:
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pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.lge.voicecommand
 appops set com.android.cts.appsflipcursor SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW allow
 settings put secure accessibility_enabled 1
 settings put secure enabled_accessibility_services com.android.cts.appsflipcursor/com.android.cts.appsflipcursor.services.MouseEventService
 am startservice com.android.cts.appsflipcursor/com.android.cts.appsflipcursor.services.MouseEventService
Ha! Thanks for the correction, I am posting here on a lg classic that does not have a browser. The mouse is already installed with 2 out of the 3 permissions granted via there accessibility app,(don't know why overlay didn't make it into the app) so Will pm grant SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW ... Do the trick?
TIA! 

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3127 on: December 19, 2024, 02:40:49 PM »
Ha! Thanks for the correction, I am posting here on a lg classic that does not have a browser. The mouse is already installed with 2 out of the 3 permissions granted via there accessibility app,(don't know why overlay didn't make it into the app) so Will pm grant SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW ... Do the trick?
TIA!
adb shell appops set com.android.cts.appsflipcursor SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW allow
This should help.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3128 on: December 19, 2024, 03:05:49 PM »
adb shell appops set com.android.cts.appsflipcursor SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW allow
This should help.
Thanks.
Just curious, what is appops?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3129 on: December 19, 2024, 03:09:37 PM »
Thanks.
Just curious, what is appops?
I really don't know.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3130 on: December 19, 2024, 04:24:17 PM »
Thanks.
Just curious, what is appops?
ChatGPT:
In Android, appops (short for App Operations) is a tool that allows fine-grained control over app permissions and operations. It manages how apps are allowed to use sensitive permissions or operations, such as location access, camera usage, or the ability to draw overlays (like SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW).
My real Username is Flippy but I dont know how to change it...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3131 on: December 19, 2024, 09:42:16 PM »
TAG's website lists the TCL T408dL as filterable. Is that the flip 2 or 3? Or something else?
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3132 on: December 19, 2024, 11:53:56 PM »
Got FIG phone, want my calls and texts forwarded from my iPhone (12). Don't see this option listed under settings on the iPhone. Best way to do this?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3133 on: December 20, 2024, 12:15:42 AM »
You cannot forward text.

If you are on Verizon you can forward calls by dialing *72phonenumber, other carriers should be the same or similar

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3134 on: December 20, 2024, 12:24:48 AM »
forward calls by dialing *72phonenumber
And *73 to unfoward

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3135 on: December 20, 2024, 06:06:55 AM »
TAG's website lists the TCL T408dL as filterable. Is that the flip 2 or 3? Or something else?
That is the tcl flip 2.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3136 on: December 20, 2024, 06:15:16 AM »
Got FIG phone, want my calls and texts forwarded from my iPhone (12). Don't see this option listed under settings on the iPhone. Best way to do this?
There are 3rd party apps you can get to forward texts. The way it works is, each time you get a text it generates your iPhone to forward the text to your fig. So on your fig you will receive a text from the iPhone with the original senders name and number in parentheses at the end of the text.
Regarding calls you can use the method mentioned above.
If you want to setup that the calls get forwarded only when you don't answer on the iPhone you can dial *71 and then the 10 digit number. Then *73 to turn it off.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3137 on: December 20, 2024, 08:43:07 AM »
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3138 on: December 22, 2024, 01:36:20 PM »
Anyone have a working waze apk?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3139 on: December 22, 2024, 04:12:57 PM »