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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

« Last edited by how on September 11, 2020, 11:38:16 AM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #315 on: September 09, 2019, 10:21:58 AM »
What does the LG Exalt use?
Its own Android-based build, same with the Kyocera flip.

A popular KaiOS phone is the Alcatel Go Flip which I don't think has any kosherizing solution yet.

The difference - and why it might be tougher to accomplish it with KaiOS - is that is not really Android-based, it is Linux based and they try to make some stuff compatible but it is a whole different Animal (unlike the LG and Kyocera devices that are pure Android just sliimed down and restricted.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #317 on: September 11, 2019, 04:05:04 PM »
Looking for a flip phone that runs on full android (and can handle an android filter like netspark). Dont want to spend 400 on a samsung folder. Any cheaper options?
And has to work on verizon (cdma)
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« Reply #318 on: September 11, 2019, 04:08:58 PM »
Looking for a flip phone that runs on full android (and can handle an android filter like netspark). Dont want to spend 400 on a samsung folder. Any cheaper options?
And has to work on verizon (cdma)
I believe that such a product does not exist. There is no such phone (even for $400 or more...) that is officially Verizon compatible.

The closest is the TracFone ZTE Cymbal-T LTE Android Flip.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #319 on: September 12, 2019, 05:39:31 PM »
I believe that such a product does not exist. There is no such phone (even for $400 or more...) that is officially Verizon compatible.

The closest is the TracFone ZTE Cymbal-T LTE Android Flip.
Is it possible to have Whatsapp on the ZTE Cymbal-T?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #320 on: September 12, 2019, 06:29:20 PM »
Are there any non-smart phone's (flip or otherwise) that can
1- Sync Google contacts (at least when it's first set up)
2 - browser can be blocked

My service is Cricket
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #321 on: September 12, 2019, 06:42:07 PM »
Are there any non-smart phone's (flip or otherwise) that can
1- Sync Google contacts (at least when it's first set up)
2 - browser can be blocked

My service is Cricket
I know you have cricket
But verizon 4g flip phones sync their contacts with google

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #322 on: September 12, 2019, 07:04:04 PM »
https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-flip-phone-returns-plus-nokia-7-2-is-out-with-whopping-48mp-triple-camera/

I am so sick of smartphones. This can't come soon enough. Just make sure it is a global phone and supports Hebrew/Yiddish input (and browser/Facebook/Instagram apps can be removed or blocked), and it's a winner.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #323 on: September 12, 2019, 07:11:06 PM »
Is it possible to have Whatsapp on the ZTE Cymbal-T?
ZTE Cymbal-T is a full Android phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #324 on: September 12, 2019, 07:21:49 PM »
Its own Android-based build, same with the Kyocera flip.

A popular KaiOS phone is the Alcatel Go Flip which I don't think has any kosherizing solution yet.

The difference - and why it might be tougher to accomplish it with KaiOS - is that is not really Android-based, it is Linux based and they try to make some stuff compatible but it is a whole different Animal (unlike the LG and Kyocera devices that are pure Android just sliimed down and restricted.)
From tag website.

Alcatel Go Flip, or Flip 2 Specific models only! 4044O 4044L, 4044W, 4044C
Can be made Kosher with a custom Operating System

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #325 on: September 19, 2019, 06:38:11 PM »
Finally some official US ones...

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tcl-communication-announces-the-alcatel-go-flip-3-and-alcatel-smartflip-the-first-flip-phones-with-google-assistant-300921090.html with an official Metro/T-Mobile and AT&T.

It's also KaiOS like the aforementioned Nokia.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #326 on: September 19, 2019, 08:09:32 PM »
What's a good and cheap CDMA dumb phone for talk and text ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #327 on: September 22, 2019, 10:17:08 AM »
LG exalt seems to be out of stock everywhere I look...any news on this?

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about the Sonims Xp5s? Yes, I know it's not a flip phone, but I don't see another thread on DDF for basic non-flip phones.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #329 on: September 23, 2019, 10:14:43 AM »
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about the Sonims Xp5s? Yes, I know it's not a flip phone, but I don't see another thread on DDF for basic non-flip phones.
I've had one before. I don't know if it was the same exact model.

They are huge. Right when I got it I returned it. It was way too big for me.
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