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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.

4811 Worst- Terrible T9
4810 Bad- Slow messaging app
4610 Good- Same as Kyocera Cadence S2720

« Last edited by myi on January 19, 2025, 12:56:35 AM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3260 on: March 13, 2025, 09:49:28 AM »
If their using it just for talking (as the OP seemed to imply), then not necessarily is it significantly worse. 

Besides, the keyboard starts getting bubbly on that LG one. No? Especially if your buying it pre-used.
What's the best deal for a kosher flip phone talk and text only
Yes the keypad does get bubbly. I'll take that any day over the TCL flip

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3261 on: March 16, 2025, 01:34:04 AM »
Yes the keypad does get bubbly. I'll take that any day over the TCL flip
I didn't know it was so bad.  Just curios what did you dislike about the tcl for a basic phone?

If their using it just for talking (as the OP seemed to imply), then not necessarily is it significantly worse. 

Besides, the keyboard starts getting bubbly on that LG one. No? Especially if your buying it pre-used.
keypad can always be replaced.  $15-35 Depening if you replace it yourself or have someone do it for you.

Just curious if you have experience with that specific seller? Or just a guess...
I do in fact know this seller personally.  Honest reliable seller.  Have purchased in the past from him, though not through eBay.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3262 on: March 25, 2025, 04:03:34 PM »
TCL Flip 2 not allowing Gmail to be set up.
The browser says app is blocked.
This seems to be a common problem as can be seen here - https://www.reddit.com/r/dumbphones/comments/1fcr01v/tcl_flip_2_google_blocking_login/?rdt=45204
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3263 on: March 25, 2025, 04:14:39 PM »
TCL Flip 2 not allowing Gmail to be set up.
The browser says app is blocked.
This seems to be a common problem as can be seen here - https://www.reddit.com/r/dumbphones/comments/1fcr01v/tcl_flip_2_google_blocking_login/?rdt=45204
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
https://www.jtechforums.org/t/signing-into-gmail-on-dumb-phones/272

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3264 on: March 25, 2025, 08:43:40 PM »
https://www.jtechforums.org/t/signing-into-gmail-on-dumb-phones/272
Not a big fan, to say the least, of sites forcing you to open an account to see their content.
But this site even asks which Cheder, Mesivta & BM you attended!!
And even after opening the account you still need to wait for it to get manually approved!!
Ridiculous!

Maybe you can paste or PM what's posted there?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3265 on: March 25, 2025, 08:47:35 PM »
Never mind.
Got approved.
Hopefully their trick will work.
Thanks.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3266 on: March 26, 2025, 12:11:47 AM »
Never mind.
Got approved.
Hopefully their trick will work.
Thanks.
The reason they ask those questions are because at one point there were some spammers on there.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3267 on: March 26, 2025, 12:29:39 AM »
https://www.jtechforums.org/t/signing-into-gmail-on-dumb-phones/272
Ok, we followed all the steps & it does work.
However, it only works if 2-step verification is turned on.
We find that to be completely impractical as it's a family email that different people log into with different computers in different locations.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3268 on: March 26, 2025, 12:39:28 AM »
Ok, we followed all the steps & it does work.
However, it only works if 2-step verification is turned on.
We find that to be completely impractical as it's a family email that different people log into with different computers in different locations.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

I would explore getting each person to get their own email...
You're fighting Google at this point...
You can have the emails from this one forwarded to the new personal emails if you need to...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3269 on: March 26, 2025, 04:01:16 PM »
You can have the emails from this one forwarded to the new personal emails if you need to...
Thank you for the idea.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3270 on: March 26, 2025, 04:02:16 PM »
TCL G0 Flip 2 4058G.
How can words be added to the kt9?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3271 on: March 26, 2025, 07:55:32 PM »
TCL G0 Flip 2 4058G.
How can words be added to the kt9?
I don't think it's possible. Traditional T9 is what the filters give you and you can add words on that. If you can download apps you should get that.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3272 on: March 26, 2025, 10:23:55 PM »
anyone had success installing google play services on kyocera duara xv ?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3273 on: March 26, 2025, 11:57:34 PM »
Hopefully their trick will work.
There seems to be a bug in this phone that it won't allow the full 16 letter app password to be entered.
All is fine until the last 3 letters and then the Email app malfunctions.
We must have tried it 50 times already.
Has anyone gotten around this?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3274 on: March 27, 2025, 11:14:19 AM »
Anybody know how to check if an LG Exalt is new or refurbished, and also if it is original parts or if they took a new circuit board and used Chinese parts?

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« Reply #3275 on: March 27, 2025, 03:01:24 PM »
Anybody know how to check if an LG Exalt is new or refurbished, and also if it is original parts or if they took a new circuit board and used Chinese parts?

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« Reply #3276 on: March 27, 2025, 11:42:36 PM »
There seems to be a bug in this phone that it won't allow the full 16 letter app password to be entered.
All is fine until the last 3 letters and then the Email app malfunctions.
We must have tried it 50 times already.
Has anyone gotten around this?
We finally figured out a workaround.
If you enter the app password first & only afterwards enter the account email, it works.

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« Reply #3277 on: March 28, 2025, 01:27:15 AM »
Anybody know how to check if an LG Exalt is new or refurbished, and also if it is original parts or if they took a new circuit board and used Chinese parts?
Send some pictures of the front and back and I can try to tell you from the pictures.
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« Reply #3278 on: March 28, 2025, 12:00:38 PM »
Anybody know how to check if an LG Exalt is new or refurbished, and also if it is original parts or if they took a new circuit board and used Chinese parts?
Which do you consider to be better, original 8 year old parts that have limited remaining life or new Chinese parts that have a shorter life?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #3279 on: April 10, 2025, 02:12:44 AM »
Looking for recommendations for a flip phone that works with H20 wireless. I was told it needs to be AT&T compatible.
We have not had success with flip phones. We are using this as a home phone for the kids and they seem to have a short life span.
Any suggestions?