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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #560 on: May 07, 2020, 03:17:30 PM »
I also heard someone was looking to make a special run of Verizon's cosmo 3  with 4g on it and special software but needed a minimum of 100,000 pieces.
I dont have numbers but I'm sure he could sell if he had the right LTE bands for the major carriers 4 (or 3) and got verizon to sell.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #561 on: May 07, 2020, 11:35:13 PM »
how would I know if this is compatible with twigby service?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonim-XP3-Flip-Phone-8GB-ROM-1G-RAM-Black-Sprint-A/193047512382

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #562 on: May 07, 2020, 11:55:42 PM »
how would I know if this is compatible with twigby service?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonim-XP3-Flip-Phone-8GB-ROM-1G-RAM-Black-Sprint-A/193047512382
If it’s a sprint phone. It should work.
Try to message the seller and ask for the imei

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #563 on: May 07, 2020, 11:58:06 PM »
If it’s a sprint phone. It should work.
Try to message the seller and ask for the imei
I did he responded
Unfortunately we don't have that information

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« Reply #564 on: May 08, 2020, 12:00:26 AM »
I did he responded
Unfortunately we don't have that information
Tell him to remove the back cover and remove the battery and send you a picture of the phone.
Or ask him to dial *#06#.
If they can’t provide you this info then you should not buy from them

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #565 on: May 08, 2020, 11:22:08 AM »
Tell him to remove the back cover and remove the battery and send you a picture of the phone.
Or ask him to dial *#06#.
If they can’t provide you this info then you should not buy from them
I dont know about that model phone, but in my experience flip phones will not give the device info by dialing *#06#

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #566 on: May 08, 2020, 03:39:13 PM »
I dont know about that model phone, but in my experience flip phones will not give the device info by dialing *#06#
My ZTE Z223 does.

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« Reply #567 on: May 08, 2020, 04:18:53 PM »
My ZTE Z223 does.
I think that's a GSM thing.... sprint would be cdma
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« Reply #568 on: May 08, 2020, 05:59:39 PM »
The zte z223 is a AT&T Phone. Won’t work with sprint

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #569 on: May 14, 2020, 12:40:32 PM »
Can the Kyocera Cadence Verizon Prepaid phone be used for Sprint?
I tried putting in a postpaid Sprint Sim but Sprint says they are unable to activate it. I do have the unlock code already despite that I haven't been active for 60 days (or $50). Perhaps I need to wait it out even though I already have unlock code.
did anyone have success with activating the Kyocera Cadence on sprint/tello?

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« Reply #570 on: May 20, 2020, 10:50:55 PM »
I have been building Kosher software for mobile phones for over 10+ years. It's very expensive to build a phone yet along RnD to build your own firmware. I personally have made around 40+ phones kosher. From the Alcatel 4044 all the way to the Koycera models. I can remote flash alot of phones if anyone needs to turn their phone into a kosher or talk and text device.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #571 on: May 20, 2020, 10:55:48 PM »
Does anyone know if this phone can be kosherized?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #572 on: May 21, 2020, 11:46:02 AM »
I have been building Kosher software for mobile phones for over 10+ years. It's very expensive to build a phone yet along RnD to build your own firmware. I personally have made around 40+ phones kosher. From the Alcatel 4044 all the way to the Koycera models. I can remote flash alot of phones if anyone needs to turn their phone into a kosher or talk and text device.

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maybe you can push/implement a 4g basic phone with keyboard?  From what I understand there is NONE i the market  and seems to be a lot of demand among the frum crowd etc....

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #573 on: May 21, 2020, 11:46:54 AM »
I have been building Kosher software for mobile phones for over 10+ years. It's very expensive to build a phone yet along RnD to build your own firmware. I personally have made around 40+ phones kosher. From the Alcatel 4044 all the way to the Koycera models. I can remote flash alot of phones if anyone needs to turn their phone into a kosher or talk and text device.

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also where are you located and can you give  range of prices?

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« Reply #574 on: May 21, 2020, 01:47:51 PM »
also where are you located and can you give  range of prices?
It’s all on the website
$25 per phone.
Based on the phone number he is in Los Angeles

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« Reply #575 on: May 21, 2020, 07:41:36 PM »
maybe you can push/implement a 4g basic phone with keyboard?  From what I understand there is NONE i the market  and seems to be a lot of demand among the frum crowd etc....

Its to expensive to go out and build a good quality handset and still affordable.
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« Reply #576 on: May 21, 2020, 09:25:47 PM »
Its to expensive to go out and build a good quality handset and still affordable.
What about a licensing and existing phone? If I understand correctly the earlier Java based OS cant handle 4g but how expensive would it be to partner with LG to implement their *excellent * version of ASOP for flip phones on hardware they already have like the Cosmos or Extravert?
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« Reply #577 on: May 21, 2020, 10:41:40 PM »
maybe you can push/implement a 4g basic phone with keyboard?  From what I understand there is NONE i the market  and seems to be a lot of demand among the frum crowd etc....
+1
Its to expensive to go out and build a good quality handset and still affordable.
How much would it be... people are already spending upwards of 100 on flip phones that they dont like.

I feel that most people that have flip phones are frustrated with the lack of integration, you need a phone for call/text, (which the flip phones are not very good at providing, at least not as well as the older model slide phones in my experience), ipod for music and a camera for pictures and gps for directions, (although i dont know if that can be easily replicated on a basic phone), things that should all be able to be put on a single kosher device. This is the purpose of this thread to find that device, and if someone develops it and controls the market, it seems to have a lot of potential. My two cents
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« Reply #578 on: May 21, 2020, 10:52:48 PM »
Those things can be easily replicated on flip phones and have been for years and would have continued to evolve with the market if not for corporate schemes to make more money.

 Basically, people spend more time on smartphones and Carriers can sell them for more so they want to push you to spend more on the device + more service usage. 
They (particularly Verizon) hold tremendous sway over phone makers and basically decide what they manufacture. Look at the Korean versions of the LG Exalt/folder/ wine. -- much more functionality!


Additionally the way the market has developed most phones (with the exception of flagships) are subsidized by the carriers....


About spending on flip phones.... Look at eBay literally thousands of LG Exalts have been sold in the $300-400 range! Crazy! (Peer pressure or s/t)  this is prob due to Verizon discontinuing it and being by far the best option. Verizon may have been motivated bc they were able to release a new kyocera for $240 while they couldn't raise the exalt from $150
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« Reply #579 on: May 21, 2020, 10:56:23 PM »
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