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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $150

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system.


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g) Unconfirmed
T-Mobile (4g) Unconfirmed
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

« Last edited by MoYS on July 18, 2020, 10:35:31 PM »

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« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2017, 01:11:59 PM »
VN360 or VN220?

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« Reply #62 on: August 05, 2017, 11:19:50 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2017, 12:18:34 PM »
I've finally taken the plunge and switched to an LG Exalt LTE.

After less than 24 hours with the device, there are some immediate pros and cons that I see. Hopefully we can work through some of the cons.

First the cons:

1. No outside screen. Need to flip the phone open to check time or see who's calling.
2. Lack of Hebrew input.
3. No Whatsapp or Telegram (that I'm aware of yet).
4. No (obvious, or possibly none at all) way to send voice notes.
5. No Jewish texts easily available (though I'm sure I will find a solution to this, at the very least, add them as notes to the notepad app).


And some of the Pros:
1. PHYSICAL DIALPAD!
2. No touchscreen.
3. Actually displays Hebrew in contacts and text messages - this was one thing I was afraid I would lose.
4. No urge to go online, as it isn't very practical.
5. Ability to go online when needed, and basic email access.
6. Light.
7. Flip phone - won't dial numbers by mistake while in my pocket.
8. Unlocked global phone (while LTE bands seem to be limited to Verizon bands, it seems to have support for 3G bands that will work almost anywhere).
9. Wifi hotspot capability.
10. Much better for שלום בית!
11. PHYSICAL DIALPAD!


From playing around with the phone, it seems to me like the phone firmware is some highly customized version of Android, which actually gives me hope of the ability to eventually get some of the cons I listed resolved.

Anyone else got this phone, any software solutions/upgrades?
As far as the keyboard, there is regular and t9, or is there anything newer/easier?

Do any android apps work?  What about it is android?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2017, 12:22:40 PM »

As far as the keyboard, there is regular and t9, or is there anything newer/easier?

Do any android apps work?  What about it is android?
T9 or just regular abc (also gives Chinese input option, which gives me a very slight glimmer of hope for Hebrew eventually becoming available).

It is not Android. Haven't found any way to add or install apps (though it looks like it's based on android kernel- highly modified).
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« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2017, 12:26:52 PM »
Thanks.
T9 or just regular abc (also gives Chinese input option, which gives me a very slight glimmer of hope for Hebrew eventually becoming available).

It is not Android. Haven't found any way to add or install apps (though it looks like it's based on android kernel- highly modified).

thanks. Does it have a flashlight option?

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« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2017, 12:27:23 PM »

Thanks. thanks. Does it have a flashlight option?
No.
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« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2017, 12:55:21 PM »
Can it open PDF and Docs?

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« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2017, 01:02:03 PM »
4. No (obvious, or possibly none at all) way to send voice notes.

https://ss7.vzw.com/is/content/VerizonWireless/Devices/LG/LG%2520Exalt%2520LTE/lg-exalt-lte-ug.pdf

See page 49 how to share a voice note.

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« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2017, 02:17:54 PM »
https://ss7.vzw.com/is/content/VerizonWireless/Devices/LG/LG%2520Exalt%2520LTE/lg-exalt-lte-ug.pdf

See page 49 how to share a voice note.
Link you posted doesn't work (maybe need to be logged in to VZW to view). Here's a link to the manual from LG: http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-LGVN220#manuals

Yeah, one can share a voice note, but it's not as simple as responding to a text message or a whatsapp by just holding a button and recording a response.
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« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2017, 02:19:43 PM »
Can it open PDF and Docs?
With the screen size, I don't see how that would be practical. Didn't try. Though even if one cannot directly, I'm sure one could use a web based workaround if really necessary.
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« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2017, 01:49:52 PM »
So now I've got some proof positive that the OS is indeed a customized version of Android.



My only problem is that I haven't figured out yet any way to enter developer mode or debug mode or anything of the sort, that will let me install anything, but my hopes are up there that the developer community will figure out something down the road. Adding WhatsApp, Hebrew Input, and some essential jewish software (calendar, various texts, etc.) will really make this phone that much more useful.
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« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2017, 01:52:11 PM »
So now I've got some proof positive that the OS is indeed a customized version of Android.



My only problem is that I haven't figured out yet any way to enter developer mode or debug mode or anything of the sort, that will let me install anything, but my hopes are up there that the developer community will figure out something down the road. Adding WhatsApp, Hebrew Input, and some essential jewish software (calendar, various texts, etc.) will really make this phone that much more useful.
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« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2017, 01:56:42 PM »
Does it have filtering?
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To quote the response from my son's yeshiva to certain phones that technically do have ability to browse the internet (paraphrasing): "We have no problem with that phone, it is a form of torture to browse online with that phone".
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