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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #600 on: May 25, 2020, 02:02:08 PM »
FWIW I know two people who bought kosher Nuu phones and returned them for something else.

The issue you are talking about I fixed it but someone else made it kosher also and did not fix the issue. If you use our software the issue is gone.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #601 on: May 25, 2020, 02:07:44 PM »
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.

How does the camera compare to the LG exalt?
Specs say it is only 2mp while the exalt had 5?
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« Reply #602 on: May 25, 2020, 02:08:45 PM »
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.
How is it better than the LG exalt?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #603 on: May 25, 2020, 02:09:05 PM »
I dont about about Nuu but currently testing the schock.
It is the same hardware as the jitterbug phones (which are a larger version of the original  Alcatel Go flip) for seniors but has reg android go although they lock it down slightly so takes a bit of fiddling to load apps like google maps.

The camera is officially 8mp but doesnt come close to the LG exalts camera (5mp)

The virtual mouse is decent but is a drop buggy and def takes some getting used to.

Although it uas the same chip as the LG exalt it feels a lot slower basically like the original alcatels. When you press the buttons there is a slight delay.

T9- you can do better.

You can pair a bluetooth mouse (have not tried keyboard)  usb otg doesnt work.

Also very thick and bulky. Huge bezels.

No wifi calling at least with tmobile
Yes HD volte calling.

Ringer volume can he changed even when phone is closed so if u cant have ur phone ringing then you basically need to set ringer to a silent file.

Feel free to ask specific questions

It is not the same chip as the LG exalt or the Alcatels. The issue with the nuu is the software has some bugs from it, alot i have personally fixed.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #604 on: May 25, 2020, 02:09:58 PM »
How is it better than the LG exalt?

It runs a newer Android version and currently i am working on making a caller id appear in the front screen.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #605 on: May 25, 2020, 02:11:38 PM »
Best bet would be Verizon Backup -- built into tbe phone... or export ro SIM... if not backup to ur google/ iCloud account, download to pc and copg via USB to flip phone.

Mazel tov on takong the plunge!
Current iPhone is with att. I guess Verizon backup not an option. Backup to Sim is simple? Will the iPhone Sim go into the exalt?
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« Reply #606 on: May 25, 2020, 02:12:41 PM »
It runs a newer Android version and currently i am working on making a caller id appear in the front screen.
factory default settings do not show caller ID on front screen?
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« Reply #607 on: May 25, 2020, 02:13:49 PM »
How does the camera compare to the LG exalt?
Specs say it is only 2mp while the exalt had 5?

I have not played with the camera to be honest. Software wise the phone is a phone run other then the front display not showing the caller id which i am in the process of fixing.
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« Reply #608 on: May 25, 2020, 02:15:05 PM »
The issue you are talking about I fixed it but someone else made it kosher also and did not fix the issue. If you use our software the issue is gone.
Do any stores sell it kosher with your software?
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« Reply #609 on: May 25, 2020, 02:26:13 PM »
I have not played with the camera to be honest. Software wise the phone is a phone run other then the front display not showing the caller id which i am in the process of fixing.

Are you serious? Someone at LG missed the obvious. What does the display show out of the box?
Do you have a way to add words to the t9 dictionary.  Maybe auto add all name in contacts?

What is the advantage of a newer android if LG stripped it down?
Also it says asop 8.1, ie the android open source... for oreo while the exalt said android... any difference other than the wording?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #610 on: May 25, 2020, 02:28:50 PM »
Do any stores sell it kosher with your software?

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« Reply #611 on: May 25, 2020, 02:29:35 PM »
Are you serious? Someone at LG missed the obvious. What does the display show out of the box?
Do you have a way to add words to the t9 dictionary.  Maybe auto add all name in contacts?

What is the advantage of a newer android if LG stripped it down?
Also it says asop 8.1, ie the android open source... for oreo while the exalt said android... any difference other than the wording?

The LG Wine all had this issue without putting caller id in front. Vn220 was 6.0
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« Reply #612 on: May 25, 2020, 02:30:00 PM »
Yes call this number (845) 751-1082 or (845) 388-2355
Which stores are those? If I am telling people to go buy they will want more than a phone #.
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« Reply #613 on: May 25, 2020, 02:31:58 PM »
Which stores are those? If I am telling people to go buy they will want more than a phone #.

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