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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera Dura series
Can be kashered by tag

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE




Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #620 on: May 25, 2020, 11:30:04 PM »
Sorry.
Can you explain why some phones (especially alcatel go flip) feel unresponsive with slightly delayed keypress while the exalt just feels good? Is it the hardware, inefficient programming slowing everything down or simply settings to only register key presses after a longer amount of time?

The Alcatel phones that you are talking about run Kaios and not andriod. I can fix and speed things up in both. The go flip 4044 series has a very poor Kaios 1.0 OS. The new smartflip are running 2.5 which is 100X better. 
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #621 on: May 26, 2020, 12:45:41 PM »
The Alcatel phones that you are talking about run Kaios and not andriod. I can fix and speed things up in both. The go flip 4044 series has a very poor Kaios 1.0 OS. The new smartflip are running 2.5 which is 100X better. 

I have used both the 4044 (sprint and tmobile version) as well as the cricket smartflips. Can you explain why they are so slow? And if both the LG exalt and Schock are running android with the same chips is the Schock slower? (Esp confusing bc the schock has a newer version of android)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #622 on: May 26, 2020, 01:45:47 PM »
The Alcatel phones that you are talking about run Kaios and not andriod. I can fix and speed things up in both. The go flip 4044 series has a very poor Kaios 1.0 OS. The new smartflip are running 2.5 which is 100X better. 
When did the new smartflip come out? becacuse i had the goflip on sprint and when i bought it i dont believe there was a newer model to get but when i search now for the goflip it looks like a whole different phone, is it the same as the new smartflip, or is the go flip a different product

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #623 on: May 26, 2020, 02:58:14 PM »
I have used both the 4044 (sprint and tmobile version) as well as the cricket smartflips. Can you explain why they are so slow? And if both the LG exalt and Schock are running android with the same chips is the Schock slower? (Esp confusing bc the schock has a newer version of android)

It's also the way the operating system is built from the ODM. The Alcatel 4052 series is a huge improvement from the 4044 series phones. The Schock is a great device.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #624 on: May 26, 2020, 02:59:02 PM »
When did the new smartflip come out? becacuse i had the goflip on sprint and when i bought it i dont believe there was a newer model to get but when i search now for the goflip it looks like a whole different phone, is it the same as the new smartflip, or is the go flip a different product

About 6 months or so. Sprint does not have it. The 4052 series is what replaced the 4044, it comes with a better OS and has whatsapp, etc.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #625 on: May 26, 2020, 04:12:16 PM »
About 6 months or so. Sprint does not have it. The 4052 series is what replaced the 4044, it comes with a better OS and has whatsapp, etc.
Are they planning on making it for sprint also? otherwise what would you recommend as the best flip phone for sprint?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #626 on: May 26, 2020, 05:17:41 PM »
Are they planning on making it for sprint also? otherwise what would you recommend as the best flip phone for sprint?

The Tmobile one supports the Sprint bands but you have to see if it works.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #627 on: May 26, 2020, 06:17:54 PM »
Does anyone know the code for the engineering menu on the Lg exalt VN220? I want to enable the bands for Tmobile.

I have managed to get it on the wine UN220 but seems to be disabled in the verizon version.

Would it work to pull an apk from the UN220 and pus to VN?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #628 on: May 26, 2020, 06:42:59 PM »
Does anyone have the lg wine or exalt 4g with WiFi calling for sale I have a T-Mobile plan

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #629 on: May 27, 2020, 04:56:06 PM »
I believe wing operates on the sprint network, if so the answer would be no. It does not work with wing
Wing just started with Verizon service for $20 a month.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #630 on: May 27, 2020, 04:57:17 PM »
Does anyone have the lg wine or exalt 4g with WiFi calling for sale I have a T-Mobile plan
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #631 on: May 31, 2020, 12:04:01 AM »
Wing just started with Verizon service for $20 a month.
Do they shut down for a little over-usage like RedPocket?

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« Reply #632 on: May 31, 2020, 12:28:41 AM »
KosherCell.org has a few left. Send an email to info@koshercell.org.

They are able to activate wifi calling with tmobile?  What about VoLTE?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #633 on: May 31, 2020, 04:05:24 AM »
I can add this, I will see what I can do
This would be great!
Specially for us Yiden that have alot of unpopular names, and you search the contacts for these names, and you also use these names in text etc.
Would also be great if t9 can go thru your text and suggest words that are in your previous text.
(For example, if I have anywhere in my text the word Mazel Tov, t9 should suggest it when typing 62935), my old 3g Sprint phone had already this feature

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #634 on: May 31, 2020, 11:51:07 AM »
This would be great!
Specially for us Yiden that have alot of unpopular names, and you search the contacts for these names, and you also use these names in text etc.
Would also be great if t9 can go thru your text and suggest words that are in your previous text.
(For example, if I have anywhere in my text the word Mazel Tov, t9 should suggest it when typing 62935), my old 3g Sprint phone had already this feature
The old swype keyboard had the option to go through your texts and emails to add words to the dictionary. Another feature may be to be able to add easily from any "typed" word.

The disadvantage of adding auto is that it adds typos.
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« Reply #635 on: May 31, 2020, 12:33:47 PM »
Does anyone know if the Schok phone works with page plus?. I thought that it should work but when I put in the Imei number on page pluses site it said it’s not compatible, stating I t may be because it’s not a cdma compatible phone. I was wondering if this is outdated info as page plus is using gsm now. Any ideas?

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« Reply #636 on: May 31, 2020, 01:07:12 PM »
I got a different message from page plus saying that the phone isn’t volte, although the manual online shows that it is volte. I want to try the Schok, just don’t want to be stuck with a phone the I can’t return after opening it. Any ideas?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #637 on: May 31, 2020, 02:26:57 PM »
Its an unlocked phone so prob not entered into their database so no real way to know.
Ive used the schock on tmobile and have gotten HD Calling but not wifi calling despite the tmobile website not being able to find it.

I have also tried the un220 and vn220 on tmobile and cricket havent had too much luck with volte

Its a cool phone though
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« Reply #638 on: May 31, 2020, 03:14:36 PM »
I cant activate WIFI calling with sonim XP3 I get stuck in the zip field anyone had such issues?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #639 on: May 31, 2020, 05:16:31 PM »
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.

What's the model? Does it support non-VZW bands?
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