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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

« Last edited by Jojo202 on December 16, 2020, 02:16:25 PM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #630 on: May 27, 2020, 04:57:17 PM »
Does anyone have the lg wine or exalt 4g with WiFi calling for sale I have a T-Mobile plan
KosherCell.org has a few left. Send an email to info@koshercell.org.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #631 on: May 31, 2020, 12:04:01 AM »
Wing just started with Verizon service for $20 a month.
Do they shut down for a little over-usage like RedPocket?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #632 on: May 31, 2020, 12:28:41 AM »
KosherCell.org has a few left. Send an email to info@koshercell.org.

They are able to activate wifi calling with tmobile?  What about VoLTE?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #633 on: May 31, 2020, 04:05:24 AM »
I can add this, I will see what I can do
This would be great!
Specially for us Yiden that have alot of unpopular names, and you search the contacts for these names, and you also use these names in text etc.
Would also be great if t9 can go thru your text and suggest words that are in your previous text.
(For example, if I have anywhere in my text the word Mazel Tov, t9 should suggest it when typing 62935), my old 3g Sprint phone had already this feature

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #634 on: May 31, 2020, 11:51:07 AM »
This would be great!
Specially for us Yiden that have alot of unpopular names, and you search the contacts for these names, and you also use these names in text etc.
Would also be great if t9 can go thru your text and suggest words that are in your previous text.
(For example, if I have anywhere in my text the word Mazel Tov, t9 should suggest it when typing 62935), my old 3g Sprint phone had already this feature
The old swype keyboard had the option to go through your texts and emails to add words to the dictionary. Another feature may be to be able to add easily from any "typed" word.

The disadvantage of adding auto is that it adds typos.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #635 on: May 31, 2020, 12:33:47 PM »
Does anyone know if the Schok phone works with page plus?. I thought that it should work but when I put in the Imei number on page pluses site it said it’s not compatible, stating I t may be because it’s not a cdma compatible phone. I was wondering if this is outdated info as page plus is using gsm now. Any ideas?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #636 on: May 31, 2020, 01:07:12 PM »
I got a different message from page plus saying that the phone isn’t volte, although the manual online shows that it is volte. I want to try the Schok, just don’t want to be stuck with a phone the I can’t return after opening it. Any ideas?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #637 on: May 31, 2020, 02:26:57 PM »
Its an unlocked phone so prob not entered into their database so no real way to know.
Ive used the schock on tmobile and have gotten HD Calling but not wifi calling despite the tmobile website not being able to find it.

I have also tried the un220 and vn220 on tmobile and cricket havent had too much luck with volte

Its a cool phone though
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #638 on: May 31, 2020, 03:14:36 PM »
I cant activate WIFI calling with sonim XP3 I get stuck in the zip field anyone had such issues?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #639 on: May 31, 2020, 05:16:31 PM »
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.

What's the model? Does it support non-VZW bands?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #640 on: May 31, 2020, 05:21:19 PM »
I can add this, I will see what I can do

How about Hebrew/Yiddish input?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #641 on: May 31, 2020, 05:37:30 PM »
How about Hebrew/Yiddish input?
Already available.
https://www.apps4flip.com/apps/
https://kosherappsforflip.wixsite.com/kosherappsforflip/lg-exalt

These are 2 different websites with 2 different sets of apps although it appears like they know each other.

I personally like the 2nd ones apps better
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« Reply #642 on: May 31, 2020, 05:40:40 PM »
What's the model? Does it support non-VZW bands?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #643 on: June 01, 2020, 10:20:41 PM »
I got a different message from page plus saying that the phone isn’t volte, although the manual online shows that it is volte. I want to try the Schok, just don’t want to be stuck with a phone the I can’t return after opening it. Any ideas?

The Schok works fine with page plus. the issue is that its not a very well known phone. Even verizon doesnt know that they support it. It is both CDMA and GSM. You can buy it from target with a liberal return policy to play it safe.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #644 on: June 02, 2020, 12:28:43 AM »
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wife’s sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they can’t register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wife’s sim in the phone and it worked. They said they don’t just register a sim, it’s needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wife’s phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?