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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera Dura series
Can be kashered by tag

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE




Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #660 on: June 02, 2020, 09:03:44 PM »
so then the actual device is probably locked to prepaid. If you put a non-verizon sim in you will be prompted for an unlock code. Once you use it for a while you can call verizon to get the code. Or just try your luck with verizon now...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #661 on: June 02, 2020, 09:05:56 PM »
so then the actual device is probably locked to prepaid. If you put a non-verizon sim in you will be prompted for an unlock code. Once you use it for a while you can call verizon to get the code. Or just try your luck with verizon now...
Is a Verizon mvno (USMobile) considered "non" Verizon?

I spent 3 hours on the phone with Verizon today no luck
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #662 on: June 02, 2020, 09:06:43 PM »
Link?
I don't use much anyways
USMobile $10
Tello (sprint) $8

Here is the link to red pocket but you seem to have cheaper options
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133058473014
Wing also looks like a good service for $19
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #663 on: June 02, 2020, 09:08:30 PM »
Is a Verizon mvno (USMobile) considered "non" Verizon?

I spent 3 hours on the phone with Verizon today no luck

Not sure. never tried. did it prompt you for an unlock code? Easier to borrow a friends Att or t mobile et al, sim and then call verizon once you get the unlock prompt

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #664 on: June 02, 2020, 09:10:07 PM »
Not sure. never tried. did it prompt you for an unlock code? Easier to borrow a friends Att or t mobile et al, sim and then call verizon once you get the unlock prompt
I have other sims to try, they all prompt for code, question is about USMobile which I don't have sim yet

Hold time is ridiculously long and agents are clueless, those who know what they're talking about refused to do it (it's their known policy)
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« Reply #665 on: June 02, 2020, 09:44:07 PM »
I have other sims to try, they all prompt for code, question is about USMobile which I don't have sim yet

Hold time is ridiculously long and agents are clueless, those who know what they're talking about refused to do it (it's their known policy)
Yes US mobile will also require device to be unlocked before use. you can try putting in a verizon prepaid sim that has been active for a while (1month+) and see if they will do it then. some reps will do it even earlier but ymmv. Try to reach the postpaid dept and then they will (sometimes) transfer you to the right dept.

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« Reply #666 on: June 03, 2020, 12:50:35 AM »
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.

It seems like they took the exalt, made the screen a bit smaller (better form factor) and dummed down the camera from 5 megapixel to 2 AND removed the autofocus (the photos probably look like the cadences' now. why is that good? Everyone will buy it just for lack of a better option. They are selling the exalt for $300+ in Boro Park now. and everyone is buying it even though the durability of these phones are terrible!! If someone went ahead and created a good phone from the ground up, even though it would be expensive, they could make a fortune if designed right.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #667 on: June 03, 2020, 09:31:50 AM »
Hi just curious. where did you buy the phone from? Is it the US Cellular version?
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« Reply #668 on: June 03, 2020, 12:34:57 PM »
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So that works with Verizon prepaid without any unlocking? wow. you bought it from US cellular as locked? Or paid in full?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #669 on: June 03, 2020, 12:38:52 PM »
I just got a verizon kyocera DuraXV Extreme for my wifes grandma. Its the best flip phone out there. Only availabke from verizon with service, but i found in a local store and got them to sell to me without service. Then i added a line to vzw with a diff phone for 45 days to get their byod 250 gc promo and that makes the phone $16. Since the promo requires a smartphone, port in, smartphone must remain active for 45 days, but line mist remain for a year. After 45 days we will swap the Kyocera onto the line.

The previous model is also great. Just slightly smaller battery and slower 32-bit processor vs faster 64 bit. Also usb c vs usb micro. This phone is military spec and has a 2 year manufacturers warranty. Military standard 810G for Dust, shock, vibration, temp extremes, blowing rain, low pressure, humidity, etc. Drop proof up to 5 feet onto concrete, IP68 dust and waterproof. I can also confirm the extreme takes a 128gb micro sd card. Speaker phone qhality is insane on both ends.

Make this a kosher phone and you'll absolutely kill the market.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #670 on: June 03, 2020, 04:44:52 PM »
I just got a verizon kyocera DuraXV Extreme for my wifes grandma. Its the best flip phone out there. Only availabke from verizon with service, but i found in a local store and got them to sell to me without service. Then i added a line to vzw with a diff phone for 45 days to get their byod 250 gc promo and that makes the phone $16. Since the promo requires a smartphone, port in, smartphone must remain active for 45 days, but line mist remain for a year. After 45 days we will swap the Kyocera onto the line.

That sounds awsome!
Did you open the new line first, then use the gift card to bug the phone  or as it sounds like from the post you first got it from the store?

Also does the byod plan require you to port a number or can it be a brand new line?
Do you need a preexisting verizon account?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #671 on: June 03, 2020, 04:53:22 PM »
Make this a kosher phone and you'll absolutely kill the market.

1)seems like this is heing worked on by the one and only @Kosher_Cellutions see his website https://www.kosherfone.com/new-releases

2) Many will not like the rugged lool and feel. A friend who does not have any technical leanings was given one of these by Verizon to replace his broken exalt and complained about how bulky and unclassy it is. Payed much much more than you would imagine for a replacement used Exalt. So it might be difficult to convince people to adopt.
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« Reply #672 on: June 03, 2020, 07:43:22 PM »
1)seems like this is heing worked on by the one and only @Kosher_Cellutions see his website https://www.kosherfone.com/new-releases

2) Many will not like the rugged lool and feel. A friend who does not have any technical leanings was given one of these by Verizon to replace his broken exalt and complained about how bulky and unclassy it is. Payed much much more than you would imagine for a replacement used Exalt. So it might be difficult to convince people to adopt.

Its to big, I prefer the E4610 to be honest.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #673 on: June 03, 2020, 09:50:14 PM »
Can someone please help me out, i have been trying to follow the conversation for the last few while but i am getting a bit lost, it seems like most of the phones being discussed are for verizon. which phones are compatible with sprint, and are there any that can support google maps while still removing the browser. TIA

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« Reply #674 on: June 03, 2020, 10:47:17 PM »
Can someone please help me out, i have been trying to follow the conversation for the last few while but i am getting a bit lost, it seems like most of the phones being discussed are for verizon. which phones are compatible with sprint, and are there any that can support google maps while still removing the browser. TIA
Maybe its time for a wiki of all available phones and their respective filtering options and capabilities.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #675 on: June 03, 2020, 11:02:55 PM »
I have the kyocera cadence and it keeps telling me that the usb port is over heating and it blocks the phone from actually charging. Has anyone had a similar issue with this phone?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #676 on: June 04, 2020, 12:28:01 AM »
Perhaps not the appropriate thread for this question, but I'm sure all those with flip phones suffer from Tovia mayer phone calls and the like. I wonder how others dealt with that.
Is there a way to block a phone number without the call recording going straight to voicemail?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #677 on: June 04, 2020, 09:23:32 AM »
So that works with Verizon prepaid without any unlocking? wow. you bought it from US cellular as locked? Or paid in full?
not sure kosher Ralph sold it to me

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« Reply #678 on: June 04, 2020, 02:46:19 PM »
Yes US mobile will also require device to be unlocked before use. you can try putting in a verizon prepaid sim that has been active for a while (1month+) and see if they will do it then. some reps will do it even earlier but ymmv. Try to reach the postpaid dept and then they will (sometimes) transfer you to the right dept.
Had no luck with Verizon reps, $50 spend is strict rule.
However it does look like Verizon mvno sim (USMobile) doesn't prompt for an unlock code, I still can't activate it using the locked devices IMEI however I wonder if I can activate on a donor IMEI and just pop in the USMobile sim
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #679 on: June 04, 2020, 09:37:58 PM »
I just got a verizon kyocera DuraXV Extreme for my wifes grandma. Its the best flip phone out there. Only availabke from verizon with service, but i found in a local store and got them to sell to me without service. Then i added a line to vzw with a diff phone for 45 days to get their byod 250 gc promo and that makes the phone $16. Since the promo requires a smartphone, port in, smartphone must remain active for 45 days, but line mist remain for a year. After 45 days we will swap the Kyocera onto the line.

The previous model is also great. Just slightly smaller battery and slower 32-bit processor vs faster 64 bit. Also usb c vs usb micro. This phone is military spec and has a 2 year manufacturers warranty. Military standard 810G for Dust, shock, vibration, temp extremes, blowing rain, low pressure, humidity, etc. Drop proof up to 5 feet onto concrete, IP68 dust and waterproof. I can also confirm the extreme takes a 128gb micro sd card. Speaker phone qhality is insane on both ends.

Make this a kosher phone and you'll absolutely kill the market.

Sounds good but 99% of the people I know would not walk around with a brick like that in their pocket. It is ridiculously huge! Why cant we take that same phone and just put it into a nicer package? why would Kyocera limit their audience so much??