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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #780 on: July 01, 2020, 08:25:57 PM »
Both the alcatels and the schock have the issue where the volume can he adjusted when the phone is closed. I have both. They are both slow and buggy buy the new alcatel go flip 3 is less so. They sell an ATT version of it
Thanks! Just wanted to verify that the ATT Alcatel is 4g. Also do you know where to buy it unlocked?
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« Reply #781 on: July 02, 2020, 02:39:18 PM »
Thanks! Just wanted to verify that the ATT Alcatel is 4g. Also do you know where to buy it unlocked?
It definitely has a 4g modem although I can't guarantee it has VoLTE. That's carrier specific.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #782 on: July 03, 2020, 01:00:21 AM »
what options are currently available for physical QWERTY keyboard, (pref feature phone) on ATT?

None

didn't get any email from Gmail. I think it’s an issue with the device.
What error are you getting on the phone?

Right, for AT&T those are my options - Alcatel Go Flip 3 or Schok. Just need to figure out if I should even consider the Alcatel or go straight to Schok. The only thing reviewers didn't like about it is that the volume buttons are pressable when the phone is closed, so you can end up adjusting the volume by mistake if it's in a pocket or something. But not sure if that's enough of a drawback to not buy it, and it's got to be better than what I have now.
Also both phones are low quality and laggy, slow...

As well as the https://www.target.com/p/cricket-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-phone-4gb-black/-/A-76616248
 Wonder if this works for at&t.
check this out
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184265988163

Today most have all three sizes.

 What was the story with this device? shows unlocked and works for other carriers as well. wiki can be updated.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html

Or for $55 for a refurbished one.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1552325/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html
Not sure never tried the phone myself, but in regards to the service, Thanks Ill update the wiki.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #783 on: July 03, 2020, 01:01:46 AM »
Thanks! Just wanted to verify that the ATT Alcatel is 4g. Also do you know where to buy it unlocked?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #784 on: July 03, 2020, 01:31:54 AM »
Does this make sense the unlocked version has more bands while the locked version has less?

Unlocked - Alcatel SMARTFLIP 4052R | 4G LTE | 4GB Flip-Phone | Bluetooth, WiFi, Big Buttons | (GSM Unlocked) - Volcano Black ($69.00)





Locked Version, which is prepaid-
$40  https://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-black/6368542.p?skuId=6368542

$30 for the cricket one.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cricket-wireless-alcatel-smartflip-black/6376738.p?



At this point i need to get two phones tomorrow to activate on wing service(at&t) so i can bring them up to the country for Sunday.

 Which would you guys settle for?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #785 on: July 03, 2020, 01:19:36 PM »
Both the alcatels and the schock have the issue where the volume can he adjusted when the phone is closed. I have both. They are both slow and buggy buy the new alcatel go flip 3 is less so. They sell an ATT version of it

Actually incorrect. If you buy the Schok from EZ Wirless the volume does not change when the phone is closed. I fixed it for them!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #786 on: July 03, 2020, 01:58:11 PM »
Actually incorrect. If you buy the Schok from EZ Wirless the volume does not change when the phone is closed. I fixed it for them!
I was referring to the Original manufacturer version. Who is EZ wireless?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #787 on: July 03, 2020, 05:36:27 PM »


 Got a few of these let's see how they work for 6 bucks you can't go wrong.

 I wonder if these would work for me to use an AT&t versus me spending 80 bucks on two new phones?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #788 on: July 03, 2020, 05:53:34 PM »


 Got a few of these let's see how they work for 6 bucks you can't go wrong.

 I wonder if these would work for me to use an AT&t versus me spending 80 bucks on two new phones?
Which phone is that?
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« Reply #789 on: July 03, 2020, 07:03:41 PM »
Which phone is that?
I bought these before the deal went live on the main site.
 TracFone with Verizon.
Alcatel MyFlip
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« Reply #790 on: July 04, 2020, 10:59:12 PM »
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That one is called QuickFlip, is that the same as the Go Flip 3 mentioned in the wiki?
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« Reply #791 on: July 04, 2020, 11:09:54 PM »
That one is called QuickFlip, is that the same as the Go Flip 3 mentioned in the wiki?
No that's the old one. Anything with 4044 is the original one a d the letters afterward  indicate the carrier variant.
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« Reply #792 on: July 05, 2020, 12:17:24 AM »
That one is called QuickFlip, is that the same as the Go Flip 3 mentioned in the wiki?
Seems all these new ones are now kasherable.
http://tagflatbush.com/4g-lte-basic-phones/

  Ended up buying the Alcatel SmartFlip from AT&t the prepaid one.
  And using wing as my service provider.

 Now I need to see how I can lock both of them.

Would love to have them all locked and ready by tom somehow.

I put a 100MB on the Phone plan, enough for them to send and receive picture messages.
  But the browser & the app store I would want blocked.

Is there anyone that knows how to do this without the need for me to go to tag?

 (Till tag returns it, and locks it, will be some time.)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #793 on: July 05, 2020, 05:31:19 AM »
While looking for a way to lock and to change the settings of the device. Alcatel Smart flip At&t prepaid.

 I stumbled across all this gyberirish, python and debugging and developer coding and forums.

 For someone who's in the IT or the support world it would be amazing if someone here can write us up a program to remove the apps on the home screens and block the store and internet.

Here's a few links I was roaming through..(there's actually a Jewish guy it seems Hocking away there.)

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bananahackers/91D-RDgZpmM

https://www.martinkaptein.com/blog/kai-os-remove-default-pre-installed-bloatware-apps/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KaiOS/comments/diyaan/is_there_any_way_to_uninstall_the_stock_apps/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/bananahackers

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bananahackers/SRE3nkHiKUQ

  I love these techy stuff, but this is to the next level.
 Would take me quote a bit of time to google all these terms to try to grasp the basics of this.
 But interesting that I bumped into this.

 If someone has some more knowledge on this and doesn't mind sharing it, that would be really helpful.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #794 on: July 05, 2020, 09:53:15 AM »
While looking for a way to lock and to change the settings of the device. Alcatel Smart flip At&t prepaid.

 I stumbled across all this gyberirish, python and debugging and developer coding and forums.

 For someone who's in the IT or the support world it would be amazing if someone here can write us up a program to remove the apps on the home screens and block the store and internet.

Here's a few links I was roaming through..(there's actually a Jewish guy it seems Hocking away there.)

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bananahackers/91D-RDgZpmM

https://www.martinkaptein.com/blog/kai-os-remove-default-pre-installed-bloatware-apps/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KaiOS/comments/diyaan/is_there_any_way_to_uninstall_the_stock_apps/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/bananahackers

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bananahackers/SRE3nkHiKUQ

  I love these techy stuff, but this is to the next level.
 Would take me quote a bit of time to google all these terms to try to grasp the basics of this.
 But interesting that I bumped into this.

 If someone has some more knowledge on this and doesn't mind sharing it, that would be really helpful.
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