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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

« Last edited by Jojo202 on December 16, 2020, 02:16:25 PM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #900 on: September 21, 2020, 02:31:11 PM »
so what's the answer? is it hard to permanently disable wifi?

You disable it thru software.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #901 on: September 21, 2020, 05:29:58 PM »
You disable it thru software.

so why cant Tag do it? they say they can only "kasher" the phone not disable the wifi how complex is it to disable wifi? and hence the limitation; since they only "kasher" phones they can only do so to certain phones.  It seems if they try and disable wifi that would enable them to take care of all the phones?

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« Reply #902 on: September 21, 2020, 11:38:56 PM »
so why cant Tag do it? they say they can only "kasher" the phone not disable the wifi how complex is it to disable wifi? and hence the limitation; since they only "kasher" phones they can only do so to certain phones.  It seems if they try and disable wifi that would enable them to take care of all the phones?

anyone one want to volunteer assisting and guiding TAG?

Because the developer of that solution did not do it for them. Simple as that or it was never requested.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #903 on: September 22, 2020, 11:36:01 AM »
Because the developer of that solution did not do it for them. Simple as that or it was never requested.

so can they request someone to assist them with  disabling all basic phones wifi connection?  whom would they contact to do this  and how complex is it?  are you able to do it(permanently disable wifi)?

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« Reply #904 on: September 22, 2020, 12:54:56 PM »
so can they request someone to assist them with  disabling all basic phones wifi connection?  whom would they contact to do this  and how complex is it?  are you able to do it(permanently disable wifi)?

depends on the model. If they request it I do it.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #905 on: September 22, 2020, 02:53:32 PM »
depends on the model. If they request it I do it.

This is where I am confused why does it depend on the model I thought all of them can be done.  TAG also kashers some models but what we are trying to figure out is how to disable the wiif which would apply to all phones.  Is there a difference as far as you know between kashering and disabling wifi?

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« Reply #906 on: September 23, 2020, 01:20:37 AM »
Wifi is not the only way to access internet. Cellular data is a problem too. so the browser needs to be disabled through the software of the phone anyway. Opening up a phone to do anything, is tedious, time consuming, and definitely not the right way to go about mass kashering, having to teach all the TAG technicians how to open up phones and play around with wiring. Destined for failure . The right way is making a software ONCE for each phone and then just putting it on the phones as needed. There are many phones that cant be kashered, mostly because they aren't really good phones, and there is not enough customers to justify making a software for it.

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« Reply #907 on: September 23, 2020, 09:29:45 AM »
Wifi is not the only way to access internet. Cellular data is a problem too. so the browser needs to be disabled through the software of the phone anyway. Opening up a phone to do anything, is tedious, time consuming, and definitely not the right way to go about mass kashering, having to teach all the TAG technicians how to open up phones and play around with wiring. Destined for failure . The right way is making a software ONCE for each phone and then just putting it on the phones as needed. There are many phones that cant be kashered, mostly because they aren't really good phones, and there is not enough customers to justify making a software for it.

So for my clarification you can disable browser through software or wiring but through software is more efficient?
You are correct about cellular data being also an issue but you can block data or not subscribe to data with wifi you need to disable it so my question does it work the same with wifi meaning you can disable it through software or cutting wires?

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« Reply #908 on: September 23, 2020, 02:21:50 PM »
you cannot disable browser through hardware. only through software.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #909 on: September 23, 2020, 02:48:42 PM »
you cannot disable browser through hardware. only through software.

what about wifi how do you disable?

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« Reply #910 on: September 24, 2020, 12:34:27 AM »
They dont disable wifi. Its okay to connect to wifi as long as you dont have a browser which is way to access the internet. Leaving wifi on means people can still connect to wifi if they dont have good service they can use wifi calling/texting, or they can use the data for other safe/ kosher apps like email.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #911 on: September 24, 2020, 09:45:01 AM »
They dont disable wifi. Its okay to connect to wifi as long as you dont have a browser which is way to access the internet. Leaving wifi on means people can still connect to wifi if they dont have good service they can use wifi calling/texting, or they can use the data for other safe/ kosher apps like email.

I see thanks so disabling the browser effectively protects you from accessing the internet even in a wifi spot?

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« Reply #912 on: September 24, 2020, 11:33:05 AM »
also what if you have no data on your plan you could still access internet in a wifi spot that's why if you could disable wifi you don't have to disable browser

so can you disable wifi (NOT THE BROWSER) or not??

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« Reply #913 on: September 24, 2020, 01:32:17 PM »
most people have data already on the plan. and its backward to disable wifi and not the browser. which makes it easy for anyone to just put in someone elses sim card.

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« Reply #914 on: September 24, 2020, 02:47:32 PM »
most people have data already on the plan. and its backward to disable wifi and not the browser. which makes it easy for anyone to just put in someone elses sim card.

even with a different sim card you can get data if phone plan has no data plan/subscription?
question though is can you disable wifi or not? do you know?