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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

« Last edited by how on September 11, 2020, 11:38:16 AM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #240 on: October 24, 2018, 10:29:17 PM »
Cymbal is a piece of junk and its built on Android, but it's a stripped down version of Android, don't think you can use any Android app.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #241 on: October 24, 2018, 10:46:56 PM »
Cymbal is a piece of junk and its built on Android, but it's a stripped down version of Android, don't think you can use any Android app.
There's the Cymbal LTE and the Cymbal-T, 2 completely different devices. The first is a Verizon feature phone based on Android, the 2nd one is a Tracfone full Android filp-phone.

There is the Cymbal LTE:


And this is the Cymbal-T:

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #242 on: October 24, 2018, 11:25:17 PM »


Are these the only 2 options for Verizon 4G flip phones?

LG VN220
Kyocera cadence


ZTE. not sure the model

This

There is the Cymbal LTE:



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #243 on: October 25, 2018, 08:25:01 AM »
I never used the Galaxy Folder to compare, but I own - not using much just as a toy... - a Cymbal-T and it is decent.

While the phone is sold as Tracfone Prepaid it seems to be fully compatible with Verizon's network, you gotta understand that Tracfone is just an MVNO using different carriers for different phone models, but you still might have a hard time to got Verizon to activater it (see https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/7Nj1HV/zte-z353vl-cymbal-t-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states)
did you. Activate yours on vzw? What do you mean they may give a hard time?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #244 on: October 25, 2018, 08:28:25 AM »
did you. Activate yours on vzw? What do you mean they may give a hard time?
I did not.

Taken from online info and experience in the past with different devices. If the device is not officially a VZW device (the IMEI is probably registered for Tracfone) VZW might not activate - or at least not easily - the phone. Since this device uses a SIM, if you can get the SIM active in another phone you might be able to switch it to this.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #245 on: October 25, 2018, 08:31:04 AM »
The cymbal LTE is a very slow responding phone. If you have a few hundred contacts, it will take at least 30 seconds every time you open the contacts in order for you to be able to search.
When you want to make a call, you can’t just start typing the phone number. You have to open the dialer app and then dial and call it’s very annoying

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #246 on: October 25, 2018, 09:15:04 AM »
I never used the Galaxy Folder to compare, but I own - not using much just as a toy... - a Cymbal-T and it is decent.

While the phone is sold as Tracfone Prepaid it seems to be fully compatible with Verizon's network, you gotta understand that Tracfone is just an MVNO using different carriers for different phone models, but you still might have a hard time to got Verizon to activater it (see https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/7Nj1HV/zte-z353vl-cymbal-t-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states)

Other Verizon MVNOs should be good, correct?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #247 on: October 25, 2018, 09:21:13 AM »
The cymbal LTE is a very slow responding phone. If you have a few hundred contacts, it will take at least 30 seconds every time you open the contacts in order for you to be able to search.
When you want to make a call, you can’t just start typing the phone number. You have to open the dialer app and then dial and call it’s very annoying
which cymbal are you talking about?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #248 on: October 25, 2018, 09:24:25 AM »
which cymbal are you talking about?
The Cymbal LTE. The one that looks like a feature phone
Not the cymbal -T

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #249 on: October 25, 2018, 10:28:10 AM »
Other Verizon MVNOs should be good, correct?
In regard to supported bands, certainly. But might be the same problem with actually getting them to give you service for this IMEI

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #250 on: October 25, 2018, 11:07:46 AM »
It seems that Tracfone doesn't offer unlimited talk plans. Does that make sense?
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« Reply #251 on: October 25, 2018, 11:35:54 AM »
It seems that Tracfone doesn't offer unlimited talk plans. Does that make sense?
Correct

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #252 on: October 25, 2018, 11:58:45 AM »
Seems like you can get in vie Total Wireless as well. And they do offer unlimited plans.
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« Reply #253 on: October 25, 2018, 02:22:43 PM »
Seems like you can get in vie Total Wireless as well. And they do offer unlimited plans.
Total Wireless, which BTW is a TracFone company, and so is Page Plus, so you might get it to work on them as well...

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« Reply #254 on: October 25, 2018, 02:56:06 PM »
Total Wireless, which BTW is a TracFone company, and so is Page Plus, so you might get it to work on them as well...
Im saying that the phone is actually sold with total wireless prepaid service.
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