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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #300 on: August 22, 2019, 11:12:57 PM »
Did U.S. Mobile just change all their plans?
Yup going up to $20 plus tax
For $10 you get 1000 minutes

I think now the cheapest on Verizon will be red pocket mobile annual plan bought on ebay or amazon . Totals around $18 a month

do any of these include canada?
Tello and ultra Mobile include calls to Canada. But not roaming in Canada.
Ultra you can add extra money to be able to roam . Iirc it’s .25 per minute
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #301 on: August 23, 2019, 12:06:31 AM »
Did U.S. Mobile just change all their plans?

Looks like it. Does it change for existing customers, or are they grandfathered?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #302 on: August 23, 2019, 01:32:46 PM »
Looks like it. Does it change for existing customers, or are they grandfathered?

Here's the answer:

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First of all, thank you for being a part of the US Mobile family. We’re writing to let you know that the cost of the unlimited talk and text plan will be increasing by $10/month. This will apply to all monthly plans beginning August 22, 2019.

96% of our customers use less than 1,000 minutes of talk per month. Your bill can remain the same if you switch to our new "1,000 minutes and unlimited text" plan. So take a look at our plans to decide what you need before your next cycle.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #303 on: August 24, 2019, 11:28:09 PM »
For those who want to stick to the Verizon network. The cheapest now is pixwireless $15 unlimited talk and text 500mb data

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #304 on: August 24, 2019, 11:35:21 PM »
For those who want to stick to the Verizon network. The cheapest now is pixwireless $15 unlimited talk and text 500mb data
I'm getting exactly that from redpocket for $19.
How does pixwireless customer service compare to redpocket?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #305 on: August 24, 2019, 11:35:57 PM »
I'm getting exactly that from redpocket for $19.
How does pixwireless customer service compare to redpocket?
I have no experience with them.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #306 on: August 24, 2019, 11:36:58 PM »
does it work on a 3G phone?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #307 on: August 24, 2019, 11:38:03 PM »
does it work on a 3G phone?
No You can’t activate a 3g device on the Verizon network regardless of the MVNO name.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #308 on: August 24, 2019, 11:46:37 PM »
No You can’t activate a 3g device on the Verizon network regardless of the MVNO name.
I have a 3G phone with redpocket verion right now

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #309 on: August 24, 2019, 11:48:05 PM »
I have a 3G phone with redpocket verion right now
When was it activated ?
You can’t activate new lines as of 2 months ago.
Officially all 3g phones on Verizon will stop working at the end of this year.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #312 on: September 09, 2019, 09:31:56 AM »
Can it be kosherized?
I can't imagine we will know until after it is released unless Nokia is working with the tech organizations. It would be a smart thing to do since that is probably a large portion of the flip phone market.
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« Reply #313 on: September 09, 2019, 10:04:22 AM »
I can't imagine we will know until after it is released unless Nokia is working with the tech organizations. It would be a smart thing to do since that is probably a large portion of the flip phone market.
It uses KaiOS, which is Android-based-but-extremely-slimmed-down-and-closed. And at the moment there is no way to kosherize any KaiOS AFAIK.

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« Reply #314 on: September 09, 2019, 10:10:43 AM »
It uses KaiOS, which is Android-based-but-extremely-slimmed-down-and-closed. And at the moment there is no way to kosherize any KaiOS AFAIK.
What does the LG Exalt use?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #315 on: September 09, 2019, 10:21:58 AM »
What does the LG Exalt use?
Its own Android-based build, same with the Kyocera flip.

A popular KaiOS phone is the Alcatel Go Flip which I don't think has any kosherizing solution yet.

The difference - and why it might be tougher to accomplish it with KaiOS - is that is not really Android-based, it is Linux based and they try to make some stuff compatible but it is a whole different Animal (unlike the LG and Kyocera devices that are pure Android just sliimed down and restricted.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #317 on: September 11, 2019, 04:05:04 PM »
Looking for a flip phone that runs on full android (and can handle an android filter like netspark). Dont want to spend 400 on a samsung folder. Any cheaper options?
And has to work on verizon (cdma)
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« Reply #318 on: September 11, 2019, 04:08:58 PM »
Looking for a flip phone that runs on full android (and can handle an android filter like netspark). Dont want to spend 400 on a samsung folder. Any cheaper options?
And has to work on verizon (cdma)
I believe that such a product does not exist. There is no such phone (even for $400 or more...) that is officially Verizon compatible.

The closest is the TracFone ZTE Cymbal-T LTE Android Flip.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #319 on: September 12, 2019, 05:39:31 PM »
I believe that such a product does not exist. There is no such phone (even for $400 or more...) that is officially Verizon compatible.

The closest is the TracFone ZTE Cymbal-T LTE Android Flip.
Is it possible to have Whatsapp on the ZTE Cymbal-T?