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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #320 on: September 12, 2019, 06:29:20 PM »
Are there any non-smart phone's (flip or otherwise) that can
1- Sync Google contacts (at least when it's first set up)
2 - browser can be blocked

My service is Cricket
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #321 on: September 12, 2019, 06:42:07 PM »
Are there any non-smart phone's (flip or otherwise) that can
1- Sync Google contacts (at least when it's first set up)
2 - browser can be blocked

My service is Cricket
I know you have cricket
But verizon 4g flip phones sync their contacts with google

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #322 on: September 12, 2019, 07:04:04 PM »
https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-flip-phone-returns-plus-nokia-7-2-is-out-with-whopping-48mp-triple-camera/

I am so sick of smartphones. This can't come soon enough. Just make sure it is a global phone and supports Hebrew/Yiddish input (and browser/Facebook/Instagram apps can be removed or blocked), and it's a winner.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #323 on: September 12, 2019, 07:11:06 PM »
Is it possible to have Whatsapp on the ZTE Cymbal-T?
ZTE Cymbal-T is a full Android phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #324 on: September 12, 2019, 07:21:49 PM »
Its own Android-based build, same with the Kyocera flip.

A popular KaiOS phone is the Alcatel Go Flip which I don't think has any kosherizing solution yet.

The difference - and why it might be tougher to accomplish it with KaiOS - is that is not really Android-based, it is Linux based and they try to make some stuff compatible but it is a whole different Animal (unlike the LG and Kyocera devices that are pure Android just sliimed down and restricted.)
From tag website.

Alcatel Go Flip, or Flip 2 Specific models only! 4044O 4044L, 4044W, 4044C
Can be made Kosher with a custom Operating System

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #325 on: September 19, 2019, 06:38:11 PM »
Finally some official US ones...

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tcl-communication-announces-the-alcatel-go-flip-3-and-alcatel-smartflip-the-first-flip-phones-with-google-assistant-300921090.html with an official Metro/T-Mobile and AT&T.

It's also KaiOS like the aforementioned Nokia.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #326 on: September 19, 2019, 08:09:32 PM »
What's a good and cheap CDMA dumb phone for talk and text ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #327 on: September 22, 2019, 10:17:08 AM »
LG exalt seems to be out of stock everywhere I look...any news on this?

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about the Sonims Xp5s? Yes, I know it's not a flip phone, but I don't see another thread on DDF for basic non-flip phones.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #329 on: September 23, 2019, 10:14:43 AM »
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about the Sonims Xp5s? Yes, I know it's not a flip phone, but I don't see another thread on DDF for basic non-flip phones.
I've had one before. I don't know if it was the same exact model.

They are huge. Right when I got it I returned it. It was way too big for me.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #330 on: September 24, 2019, 02:35:47 PM »


A popular KaiOS phone is the Alcatel Go Flip which I don't think has any kosherizing solution yet.


So the Alcatel Go Flip can also have whats app and other apps while having 4G VoLTE?

So whats so exiting about the new Nokia?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #331 on: September 24, 2019, 02:41:45 PM »
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #332 on: September 24, 2019, 02:58:37 PM »
You got the wrong link. Here is the link for the Nokia 2720.
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-2720-flip-4g-specifications-release-date-photos-price-more/

How would I know if it supports VoLTE in the US?
I was aware that the link is for a different phone. The 2720 and the 800 tough are being released concurrently with similar software.

What makes you think there's a US version being released. From what I see there isn't one yet, so I doubt whether it will support VoLTE (or all US LTE bands for that matter) at this point, which is rather sad. I really can't understand why they don't release truly global phones like the iPhone, Google phones, and several Motorola phones.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #333 on: September 24, 2019, 03:29:20 PM »
I believe that such a product does not exist. There is no such phone (even for $400 or more...) that is officially Verizon compatible.

The closest is the TracFone ZTE Cymbal-T LTE Android Flip.
Why only close? It runs on the Verizon network. Will full android. However after using it one day I realized that it does not support VoLTE, which is what we all so desperately need.

Is there ANY flip phone which supports whatsapp while supporting VoLTE? Either CDMA or GSM carriers.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #334 on: September 24, 2019, 03:34:50 PM »
So the Alcatel Go Flip can also have whats app and other apps while having 4G VoLTE?

So whats so exiting about the new Nokia?
No, it does not support Whatsapp.
Why only close? It runs on the Verizon network. Will full android. However after using it one day I realized that it does not support VoLTE, which is what we all so desperately need.

Is there ANY flip phone which supports whatsapp while supporting VoLTE? Either CDMA or GSM carriers.
Only close, because it is not an official "Verizon" phone (and probably can have issues getting Verizon to activate it, maybe depending on where you get t from.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #335 on: September 24, 2019, 03:37:56 PM »
I was aware that the link is for a different phone. The 2720 and the 800 tough are being released concurrently with similar software.

What makes you think there's a US version being released. From what I see there isn't one yet, so I doubt whether it will support VoLTE (or all US LTE bands for that matter) at this point, which is rather sad. I really can't understand why they don't release truly global phones like the iPhone, Google phones, and several Motorola phones.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #336 on: October 02, 2019, 10:53:09 AM »
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #337 on: October 02, 2019, 04:20:29 PM »
Ordered the smart flip. Will report back when I get it how it is. Sounds like it has everything i was waiting got the past few years. If only it will work well....
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #338 on: October 02, 2019, 04:32:05 PM »
Ordered the smart flip. Will report back when I get it how it is. Sounds like it has everything i was waiting got the past few years. If only it will work well....
will it work in US?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #339 on: October 02, 2019, 04:48:53 PM »
Ordered the smart flip. Will report back when I get it how it is. Sounds like it has everything i was waiting got the past few years. If only it will work well....

Let us know how it works. Also need to know if it can be unlocked and used in Israel.
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