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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #360 on: October 22, 2019, 10:28:41 PM »
Can the Kyocera Cadence Verizon Prepaid phone be used for Sprint?
I tried putting in a postpaid Sprint Sim but Sprint says they are unable to activate it. I do have the unlock code already despite that I haven't been active for 60 days (or $50). Perhaps I need to wait it out even though I already have unlock code.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #361 on: October 23, 2019, 12:04:04 AM »
Can the Kyocera Cadence Verizon Prepaid phone be used for Sprint?
I tried putting in a postpaid Sprint Sim but Sprint says they are unable to activate it. I do have the unlock code already despite that I haven't been active for 60 days (or $50). Perhaps I need to wait it out even though I already have unlock code.
i bought this phone unlocked and was told by the seller it cannot be used for sprint or verizon post paid but not sure if that was my specific phone or all of them

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #362 on: November 03, 2019, 01:56:30 PM »
Looking for recs on a basic phone + service (talk n text)
Cant match up what goes with what and it seems it is difficult to get a cheap basic phone over here
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #363 on: November 03, 2019, 02:39:51 PM »
Looking for recs on a basic phone + service (talk n text)
Cant match up what goes with what and it seems it is difficult to get a cheap basic phone over here
Thanks
How basic do you want to go? You can get a blue phone for $20, and it has no access to data whatsoever so you can put whatever sim you want in it and itll still be t&t
Edit. I see you can get from amazon for 16.60. But doesnt even have a full keyboard or t9
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #364 on: November 03, 2019, 03:23:14 PM »
i see that but there is a big warning that it does not work on like 80% of us networks.

Do you know of a cheap plan that goes with it.
Ideally id like t9

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« Reply #365 on: November 03, 2019, 07:13:52 PM »
i see that but there is a big warning that it does not work on like 80% of us networks.

Do you know of a cheap plan that goes with it.
Ideally id like t9
Which phone are you talking about?
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« Reply #366 on: November 03, 2019, 08:16:31 PM »
Is there anyway for purchasing the Alcatel go flip 3 phone that's unlocked?
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« Reply #367 on: November 08, 2019, 01:08:33 PM »
I can unlock the Go Flip 3 and make it kosher.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #368 on: November 08, 2019, 01:39:09 PM »
Got the phone on Friday. Will elaborate  more tomorrow.

On the first glance its not impressive.

Max 2000 contacts so it couldn't sync all my google contacts. When you are on a call you can not access any other screen / app like text email or whats app.

I can fix all that, its a  easy fix. I built most of the kosher softwares people use like the Kyocera from Approved Link or the Alcatel 4044 from Tag.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #369 on: November 08, 2019, 01:45:18 PM »
https://www.clove.co.uk/products/nokia-2720-flip-4g?variant=21381624758331
Though base on https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-800-tough-specifications-release-date-photos-price-more/ I would be afraid that it might not include US bands.

This phone has been made kosher for over 1 year by me, some guy in Lakewood has been selling it for about a year.
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« Reply #370 on: November 08, 2019, 01:47:54 PM »
facebook does not come factory installedi dont see an option for hebrew

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #371 on: November 08, 2019, 02:13:34 PM »
This phone has been made kosher for over 1 year by me, some guy in Lakewood has been selling it for about a year.

Huh? I don't think the phone was released that far back.

I would love to see an unlocked JIOPhone 2 that will work on US (and Israeli) networks and have Hebrew available. That could be a game changer.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #372 on: November 08, 2019, 02:32:40 PM »
Huh? I don't think the phone was released that far back.

I would love to see an unlocked JIOPhone 2 that will work on US (and Israeli) networks and have Hebrew available. That could be a game changer.

It has been, I built the software for it along with hebrew as well. I just finished the new Go Flip 3 and working on adding hebrew to it.

Edit sorry I was talking about the Go Flip came out 1 yr ago
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« Reply #373 on: November 08, 2019, 02:37:19 PM »
BTW Anyone looking for a Verizon flip kosher or talk and text? I just finished the Alcatel Go Flip V for verizon. Tag locations can flash it kosher for you. I built that software as well.
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« Reply #374 on: November 08, 2019, 04:23:01 PM »
BTW Anyone looking for a Verizon flip kosher or talk and text? I just finished the Alcatel Go Flip V for verizon. Tag locations can flash it kosher for you. I built that software as well.
Finally we got an expert here. I have the LG Exalt LTE with a Verizon plan and it sucks, no front screen, loses service as entering a house and of course the inability of doing anything while on a call, I'm not familiar with kyocera or alectel, what is the best option for me without the above bugs?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #375 on: November 10, 2019, 05:18:36 PM »
Finally we got an expert here. I have the LG Exalt LTE with a Verizon plan and it sucks, no front screen, loses service as entering a house and of course the inability of doing anything while on a call, I'm not familiar with kyocera or alectel, what is the best option for me without the above bugs?

So it looks like you have poor service with Verizon, if Verizon offers wifi calling you can try the Alcatel V from Verizon, its been made kosher by me and Tag has the ability to flash it Kosher for you.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #376 on: November 10, 2019, 06:51:45 PM »
what gonna be with sprint? no decent phone for them. all they have is used 3g phones. nothing normal from them (alcatel 4g phone from them is garbage)

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« Reply #377 on: November 10, 2019, 09:04:50 PM »
So it looks like you have poor service with Verizon, if Verizon offers wifi calling you can try the Alcatel V from Verizon, its been made kosher by me and Tag has the ability to flash it Kosher for you.
What are the cons of the Alcatel V over the Exalt?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #378 on: November 10, 2019, 09:13:07 PM »
what gonna be with sprint? no decent phone for them. all they have is used 3g phones. nothing normal from them (alcatel 4g phone from them is garbage)
I think sprint will stop allowing 3g phones.
I was trying to activate a 3g phone on tello and they rejected it. Saying that it’s a 3g phone and sprint does not allow it anymore on their network

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #379 on: November 10, 2019, 11:48:31 PM »
I think sprint will stop allowing 3g phones.
I was trying to activate a 3g phone on tello and they rejected it. Saying that it’s a 3g phone and sprint does not allow it anymore on their network
Iirc a few months ago they sent me an email asking the lines that my current 3g phone on tello I have will stay fine but I can't do a new activation ... So make sure I don't deactivate the current one...