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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #380 on: November 13, 2019, 01:09:34 AM »
I think sprint will stop allowing 3g phones.
I was trying to activate a 3g phone on tello and they rejected it. Saying that it’s a 3g phone and sprint does not allow it anymore on their network
Wing still works

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #381 on: November 13, 2019, 01:10:08 AM »
Any idea about the quality of the sprint Coolpad snap?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #383 on: November 14, 2019, 08:29:02 AM »
The new Motorola Razr 2019 was announced yesterday.

Sounds pretty cool.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #384 on: November 14, 2019, 07:10:02 PM »
Is there any way to have
the Alcatel 4044
with the browser removed but still have email?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #385 on: November 14, 2019, 07:15:36 PM »
The new Motorola Razr 2019 was announced yesterday.

Sounds pretty cool.
Is this a smartphone?



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #386 on: November 18, 2019, 12:01:22 AM »
The new Motorola Razr 2019 was announced yesterday.

Sounds pretty cool.


The new Motorola Razr is $1,500 but OMG I must have it

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/tech/motorola-razr-review/index.html
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #387 on: November 29, 2019, 02:25:07 PM »
My old sprint phone just went out last night its a rumor reflex s and it wont leave the loading screen, has anyone had a similar experience or any ideas what to do (yes i already took out the battery a few times, left it off for a while and pressed every button :) ). Otherwise whats the best option if i cant get a new 3g phone
I think sprint will stop allowing 3g phones.
I was trying to activate a 3g phone on tello and they rejected it. Saying that it’s a 3g phone and sprint does not allow it anymore on their network
is this it
nothing normal from them (alcatel 4g phone from them is garbage)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #388 on: December 15, 2019, 11:14:45 AM »
still looking for an unlocked / at&t 4g flip phone if anyone has one they can recommend
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #390 on: December 28, 2019, 11:35:50 PM »
For lack of better option (i thought) i got the alcatel go/smart flip but it was terrible and i am returning it after 3 weeks of use. I would like to right a review so no one has to deal with it.  I didn't notice any pros, the good parts were when it wasn't acting up. The cons were many, 1) there are more steps than necessary in doing many tasks 2) searching for contacts is impossible, when you search for contact starting with the letter M it doesn't do that, rather it brings up the first contact that has an M (eg instead of bringing up Max it will bring up Adam), which is beyond frustrating 3) there is no general contact history so you cannot see the last time someone called you except by scrolling through the call log 4) when typing using T9 the system constantly sticks in random numbers 5) if you dont restart it once a day everything will work much slower or malfunction (eg doesn't pick up calls when you flip it open). These were my biggest frustrations but there were more, overall it is not a good phone and i would not recommend it even for a purely talk phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #391 on: December 29, 2019, 03:25:16 AM »
Any idea about the quality of the sprint Coolpad snap?

I have it on the Tello network. Works great!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #392 on: January 22, 2020, 05:47:11 PM »
I just had someone stop by my office who has the Light Phone II.

Pretty remarkable piece. His reasoning for getting it was the only 4g non-smartphone with a full qwerty (on-screen) keyboard.

https://www.thelightphone.com/
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #393 on: January 22, 2020, 07:06:50 PM »
I just had someone stop by my office who has the Light Phone II.

Pretty remarkable piece. His reasoning for getting it was the only 4g non-smartphone with a full qwerty (on-screen) keyboard.

https://www.thelightphone.com/
Hopefully the phone works better than their website. Website not loading on my phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #394 on: January 22, 2020, 07:42:24 PM »
I just had someone stop by my office who has the Light Phone II.

Pretty remarkable piece. His reasoning for getting it was the only 4g non-smartphone with a full qwerty (on-screen) keyboard.

https://www.thelightphone.com/
Can have apps? Whats app?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #395 on: January 22, 2020, 08:27:33 PM »
Can have apps? Whats app?

No, only what they provide. They say it will never have any social media. Does that mean it will never have Whatsapp? Possibly.

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What are the features?
Out of the box, the Light Phone II's core functionality includes calls, messages as well as an alarm and hotspot.

There is a customizable toolbox menu for the phone in which you can add/remove various additional features to your Light Phone II. These tools are in development and will be released ongoing as they become available. We're working closely with our early adopters to design these tools.

While considering additional functionality for the Light Phone II, it's important to remember all of the features it will never have. The Light Phone II will never have social media, email, news, or ads. Our tools are intentional, and there is a clear objective in opening the tool. There will never be an infinite feed. The device itself, with a small black and white screen, reflects this philosphy and inherently limits the phone's functionality.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #396 on: January 22, 2020, 08:28:03 PM »
waze?
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #397 on: January 22, 2020, 08:28:49 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #398 on: January 22, 2020, 08:36:39 PM »
On an e-ink screen?  ::)
I know people who want smartphones just to have waze
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #399 on: January 22, 2020, 09:37:09 PM »
I know people who want smartphones just to have waze
So they want a smartphone, not a light phone.
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