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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #440 on: February 19, 2020, 11:22:42 AM »
And a friend can add you to a group which puts you in contact with a whole bunch of people who you might never be friends with in real life

much easier and on 24/7 for anyone on to post at any time. Phone conversations need to sit and join.

Thank you for the clarifications.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #441 on: February 20, 2020, 05:35:32 PM »
And a friend can add you to a group which puts you in contact with a whole bunch of people who you might never be friends with in real life
Isn't that only possible with a smartphone - which presumably a good Bachur wouldn't have anyway?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #442 on: February 20, 2020, 05:55:20 PM »
Isn't that only possible with a smartphone - which presumably a good Bachur wouldn't have anyway?
texting groups?
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #443 on: February 22, 2020, 01:07:26 PM »
Hey guys,

I noticed a lot of you guys were trying to get apps on the LG Exalt and other 4G flip phones.

Checkout www.apps4flip.com, it features a small selection of apps modified to be installable on the LG and other phones.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #444 on: February 23, 2020, 01:39:50 PM »
Hey guys,

I noticed a lot of you guys were trying to get apps on the LG Exalt and other 4G flip phones.

Checkout www.apps4flip.com, it features a small selection of apps modified to be installable on the LG and other phones.
Interesting.
I had my browser on Kyocera cadence fried, is there a way I can still get an app?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #445 on: February 23, 2020, 07:16:32 PM »
Hey guys,

I noticed a lot of you guys were trying to get apps on the LG Exalt and other 4G flip phones.

Checkout www.apps4flip.com, it features a small selection of apps modified to be installable on the LG and other phones.
Hey, someone claiming here that this app steals the users data and location. Anything you know about it?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #446 on: February 23, 2020, 07:28:37 PM »
Hey, someone claiming here that this app steals the users data and location. Anything you know about it?
Allegedly the launcher app calls back home
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #447 on: February 23, 2020, 07:34:16 PM »
Allegedly the launcher app calls back home
According to that person's claims, it does not only "call home" (which would mean a network request, and I would understand it for statistics purposes), but it sends your location and steals your contacts etc as well...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #448 on: February 23, 2020, 08:21:05 PM »
According to that person's claims, it does not only "call home" (which would mean a network request, and I would understand it for statistics purposes), but it sends your location and steals your contacts etc as well...

If it were a Chinese website, I would fear that. Did you read the "about" section of that website? Why not ask these guys straight out?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #449 on: February 23, 2020, 08:31:30 PM »
If it were a Chinese website, I would fear that. Did you read the "about" section of that website? Why not ask these guys straight out?
No reason not to ask... I actually sent them an email. But in the meantime people should be aware of it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #450 on: February 23, 2020, 08:50:56 PM »
No reason not to ask... I actually sent them an email. But in the meantime people should be aware of it.

Waiting for you to report back with your findings.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #451 on: February 24, 2020, 07:17:10 AM »
Waiting for you to report back with your findings.
The developers responded, they very to much understand there concern and are already finishing up a solution that would not include it.

Message 1:
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We apologize, we commissioned a developer to build in analytics and we did not realize how deep it went.

We have shut down the site until we have a fix available without the data collection.
We have also deleted all data that was collected.

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The issue is now fully fixed.

All collected data has been deleted by our developer.

The Data collection mechanism has been permanently disabled at the server level for users with the old apk, and we have released a new apk without any data collection at all.

We will be turning the site back on soon.

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« Reply #452 on: February 24, 2020, 07:33:28 AM »
The developers responded, they very to much understand there concern and are already finishing up a solution that would not include it.

Message 1:
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #453 on: February 24, 2020, 10:45:49 AM »
Great lesson, don't trust anyone, can you confirm the new version is indeed clean?
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« Reply #454 on: February 24, 2020, 11:25:53 AM »
Great lesson, don't trust anyone, can you confirm the new version is indeed clean?
Another lesson, don't assume bad intent...

I'm not a developer (I wasn't the one to find it, I just brought it here), but I did a scan on it and this data collection capability seems to be removed.

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« Reply #456 on: February 24, 2020, 12:05:07 PM »
Another lesson, don't assume bad intent...

I'm not a developer (I wasn't the one to find it, I just brought it here), but I did a scan on it and this data collection capability seems to be removed.
We still don't know if it was bad or not, whether anyone in the chain had malicious intent
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #457 on: February 24, 2020, 01:22:47 PM »
wil it be able to have whats app and gmail?  THAT would be major
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« Reply #458 on: February 24, 2020, 01:31:01 PM »
wil it be able to have whats app and gmail?  THAT would be major
My friend has what's app on his kyocera
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« Reply #459 on: February 24, 2020, 01:41:29 PM »
wil it be able to have whats app and gmail?  THAT would be major
Did you forget why we want flip phones?
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