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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

« Last edited by how on September 11, 2020, 11:38:16 AM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #585 on: May 24, 2020, 10:55:13 AM »
How can I transfer contacts from iPhone to Verizon 4g flip phone?
Try Bluetooth.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #586 on: May 24, 2020, 12:49:19 PM »
How can I transfer contacts from iPhone to Verizon 4g flip phone?

Best bet would be Verizon Backup -- built into tbe phone... or export ro SIM... if not backup to ur google/ iCloud account, download to pc and copg via USB to flip phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #588 on: May 25, 2020, 11:09:41 AM »
I dont about about Nuu but currently testing the schock.
It is the same hardware as the jitterbug phones (which are a larger version of the original  Alcatel Go flip) for seniors but has reg android go although they lock it down slightly so takes a bit of fiddling to load apps like google maps.

The camera is officially 8mp but doesnt come close to the LG exalts camera (5mp)

The virtual mouse is decent but is a drop buggy and def takes some getting used to.

Although it uas the same chip as the LG exalt it feels a lot slower basically like the original alcatels. When you press the buttons there is a slight delay.

T9- you can do better.

You can pair a bluetooth mouse (have not tried keyboard)  usb otg doesnt work.

Also very thick and bulky. Huge bezels.

No wifi calling at least with tmobile
Yes HD volte calling.

Ringer volume can he changed even when phone is closed so if u cant have ur phone ringing then you basically need to set ringer to a silent file.

Feel free to ask specific questions
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #589 on: May 25, 2020, 11:12:04 AM »
FWIW I know two people who bought kosher Nuu phones and returned them for something else.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #590 on: May 25, 2020, 11:15:35 AM »
maybe you can push/implement a 4g basic phone with keyboard?  From what I understand there is NONE i the market  and seems to be a lot of demand among the frum crowd etc....
There is definetely tremendous demand for this. Even at a very high price range, people will buy it. Most of the non smart phone people still text. And it is very difficult with the current dumb phones available. 

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #592 on: May 25, 2020, 11:30:07 AM »
@Mikes@Micro how about the Jio Phone 2. If a phone with that form factor could be made usable for calling, texting (including Hebrew alphabet) navigation (and optional whatsapp, including whatsapp voice calls), I think it could have a market.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #593 on: May 25, 2020, 01:07:30 PM »
yes it is and its a great phone

How does it stack up against the exalt?
What about the xp5s?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #594 on: May 25, 2020, 01:08:54 PM »
Hi I have a iPhone and I’m looking to have a kosher phone is it possible to have the same number on 2 phones without having to switch the SIM cards

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« Reply #595 on: May 25, 2020, 01:13:52 PM »
Hi I have a iPhone and I’m looking to have a kosher phone is it possible to have the same number on 2 phones without having to switch the SIM cards

Tmobile has something called Digits. Check it out. Basically keep the sim in kisher phone and have a 2nd sim in iPhone, download the app and with iPhone or samsung it is well integrated
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #596 on: May 25, 2020, 01:17:58 PM »
@Mikes@Micro how about the Jio Phone 2. If a phone with that form factor could be made usable for calling, texting (including Hebrew alphabet) navigation (and optional whatsapp, including whatsapp voice calls), I think it could have a market.

Yeah that would definitely be a hit. Some may perfer the durability of no moving parts while some prefer the space of a slider.

Importing the Jiophone 2 itself seems to be impossible as it appears to be manufactured exclusively for Reliance Jio and indian carrier. Have not been able to find a reliable way to purchase in the US.
Also doesnt seem to work with LTE bands of US carriers (although could possibly be reprogrammed which would likely kill battery life)
Cant find teardowns to know forsure but the processor seems sluggish based on reviews
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #599 on: May 25, 2020, 01:59:08 PM »
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I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.