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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #640 on: May 31, 2020, 05:21:19 PM »
I can add this, I will see what I can do

How about Hebrew/Yiddish input?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #641 on: May 31, 2020, 05:37:30 PM »
How about Hebrew/Yiddish input?
Already available.
https://www.apps4flip.com/apps/
https://kosherappsforflip.wixsite.com/kosherappsforflip/lg-exalt

These are 2 different websites with 2 different sets of apps although it appears like they know each other.

I personally like the 2nd ones apps better
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #642 on: May 31, 2020, 05:40:40 PM »
What's the model? Does it support non-VZW bands?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #643 on: June 01, 2020, 10:20:41 PM »
I got a different message from page plus saying that the phone isn’t volte, although the manual online shows that it is volte. I want to try the Schok, just don’t want to be stuck with a phone the I can’t return after opening it. Any ideas?

The Schok works fine with page plus. the issue is that its not a very well known phone. Even verizon doesnt know that they support it. It is both CDMA and GSM. You can buy it from target with a liberal return policy to play it safe.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #644 on: June 02, 2020, 12:28:43 AM »
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wife’s sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they can’t register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wife’s sim in the phone and it worked. They said they don’t just register a sim, it’s needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wife’s phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #645 on: June 02, 2020, 09:00:35 AM »
Is there a way to get the lg wine 2 to work on Verizon regular? Not pre paid(that works already)btw it’s a great phone, they fixed all the flaws from the exalt.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #646 on: June 02, 2020, 10:11:27 AM »
Anybody knows the cheapest Verizon reseller for talk or talk + text?
Ideally it would be an annual plan as I only use it occasionally.

Or is there a dedicated thread for plans?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #647 on: June 02, 2020, 10:34:49 AM »
Is there a way to get the lg wine 2 to work on Verizon regular? Not pre paid(that works already)btw it’s a great phone, they fixed all the flaws from the exalt.
Is it locked?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #648 on: June 02, 2020, 10:36:26 AM »
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wife’s sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they can’t register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wife’s sim in the phone and it worked. They said they don’t just register a sim, it’s needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wife’s phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?
Dont tell them thats your plan?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #649 on: June 02, 2020, 10:58:21 AM »
Do they shut down for a little over-usage like RedPocket?
anyone know?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #650 on: June 02, 2020, 11:04:06 AM »
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wife’s sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they can’t register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wife’s sim in the phone and it worked. They said they don’t just register a sim, it’s needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wife’s phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?
I don't think it makes sense that it shouldn't work getting activated from your wife's phone. Try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #651 on: June 02, 2020, 05:35:58 PM »
Anybody knows the cheapest Verizon reseller for talk or talk + text?
Ideally it would be an annual plan as I only use it occasionally.

Or is there a dedicated thread for plans?
Wingalpha.com has Verizon plans fro $19.99 unlimited talk and text.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #652 on: June 02, 2020, 05:38:27 PM »
Is it locked?
It's not locked. It works for outgoing calls but not for incoming. It's strange. When I stuck a Mint Mobile SIM into it, the data worked but it wouldnt let me call. There was no option to put in an unlock code.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #653 on: June 02, 2020, 08:48:04 PM »
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wife’s sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they can’t register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wife’s sim in the phone and it worked. They said they don’t just register a sim, it’s needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wife’s phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?
You have to activate it on another line. Happens sometimes with verizon even. I can have a verizon kyocera cadence that they will tell me cant be activated bec it "doesn't exist". I just give them a diff imei and put the sim into the phone i want to use. No problem.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #654 on: June 02, 2020, 08:50:17 PM »
Is there a way to get the lg wine 2 to work on Verizon regular? Not pre paid(that works already)btw it’s a great phone, they fixed all the flaws from the exalt.

Hi just curious. where did you buy the phone from? Is it the US Cellular version?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #655 on: June 02, 2020, 08:54:01 PM »
You have to activate it on another line. Happens sometimes with verizon even. I can have a verizon kyocera cadence that they will tell me cant be activated bec it "doesn't exist". I just give them a diff imei and put the sim into the phone i want to use. No problem.
I wonder if it's the same issue I have with USMobile says my IMEI of the Candace isn't valid because "Prepay ineligible" (sort of like a Verizon lock) can I provide a different imeî and just pop in the sim?

I would try but I don't have a working IMEI
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #656 on: June 02, 2020, 08:58:08 PM »
Anybody knows the cheapest Verizon reseller for talk or talk + text?
Ideally it would be an annual plan as I only use it occasionally.

Or is there a dedicated thread for plans?

(There is a dedicated thread)
Red pocket has for 19 per month for annual via ebay, but they shut do shut down for over usage as does presumably any MVNO. thats part of the reason that they are cheaper.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #657 on: June 02, 2020, 08:59:18 PM »
I wonder if it's the same issue I have with USMobile says my IMEI of the Candace isn't valid because "Prepay ineligible" (sort of like a Verizon lock) can I provide a different imeî and just pop in the sim?

I would try but I don't have a working IMEI

does your cadence model number end in PP? How long did you use it on verizon so far? 

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #658 on: June 02, 2020, 08:59:40 PM »
(There is a dedicated thread)
Red pocket has for 19 per month for annual via ebay, but they shut do shut down for over usage as does presumably any MVNO. thats part of the reason that they are cheaper.
Link?
I don't use much anyways
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #659 on: June 02, 2020, 09:00:51 PM »
does your cadence model number end in PP? How long did you use it on verizon so far?
I have 5pcs 4 never used, 1 was just activated today on Verizon prepaid
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