REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE

[Jojo202]

Maybe its time for a wiki of all available phones and their respective filtering options and capabilities.

That sounds like a good idea. I can try to work on that but it will take some time. As far as I know there is only bad news for sprint users. basically no options at all.

[Jojo202]

I have the kyocera cadence and it keeps telling me that the usb port is over heating and it blocks the phone from actually charging. Has anyone had a similar issue with this phone?

I heard about that issue but people reported that it went away after a while. Resetting the phone might work, or try swapping the battery with someone else.

[ad120]

Had no luck with Verizon reps, $50 spend is strict rule.
However it does look like Verizon mvno sim (USMobile) doesn't prompt for an unlock code, I still can't activate it using the locked devices IMEI however I wonder if I can activate on a donor IMEI and just pop in the USMobile sim

My friend bought a refurbished cadence for US Mobile. He needed to use a different IMEI to activate service.

[bznt]

Had no luck with Verizon reps, $50 spend is strict rule.
However it does look like Verizon mvno sim (USMobile) doesn't prompt for an unlock code, I still can't activate it using the locked devices IMEI however I wonder if I can activate on a donor IMEI and just pop in the USMobile sim

Go on ebay buy this
  https://www.ebay.com/itm/174128066354
choose the $50 value one. activate it with your imei. It should solve the $50 rule. use it for 1 month then do whatever you want with your number.

[Alexsei]

Go on ebay buy this
  https://www.ebay.com/itm/174128066354
choose the $50 value one. activate it with your imei. It should solve the $50 rule. use it for 1 month then do whatever you want with your number.

Good idea, have you confirmed it's working?
How can they sell $50 for $$22?

In any case I guess I need to buy a Verizon sim for each of my devices?

If so my net cost will be $58 instead of $35

[bznt]

Good idea, have you confirmed it's working?
How can they sell $50 for $$22?

In any case I guess I need to buy a Verizon sim for each of my devices?

If so my net cost will be $58 instead of $35

Well you get a month of service. And your phone is unlocked

[Alexsei]

Well you get a month of service. And your phone is unlocked

I get it, is it confirmed or it "should" work?

[Alex Warm]

i still have my basic flip phone. and i text with T9, which probably makes me the fastest texter in the world!! 

LoL..! 

[Kosher_Cellutions]

If anyone has a Verizon E4610 that wants to make it Kosher or Talk and Text my remote solution is online. My solution allows you to even do a factory reset of the phone. (Factory reset keeps the phone kosher or talk and text still)
https://www.kosherfonewireless.com/kosher-service

[ExGingi]

I get it, is it confirmed or it "should" work?

Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.

[Jojo202]

Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.

What happens when you put in the US Mobile Sim? Also go to Settings>about phone>Hardware info and tell me what it says under Model number.
Which target did you get it from? I haven't seen them around in ages!

[Alexsei]

Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.

Are you trying to activate with us mobile using the device's IMEI? Or are you just popping in an already active sim?

You can call Verizon to ask about unlock eligibility they have a dashboard that can show it

[tkcentral]

Is there anyway to filter the lg exalt with leaving on WiFi calling

[aygart]

Is there anyway to filter the lg exalt with leaving on WiFi calling

I think the standard filter leaves it.

[talmid chuchem]

Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.

You gotta call Verizon to unlock

[Jojo202]

Maybe its time for a wiki of all available phones and their respective filtering options and capabilities.

Ok I have some sort of a beginning of a wiki on many flip phones. Any specific way it should be posted? Just copy paste it as a regular post? Should I link it as a pdf download? Anyone know what's the best option for this type of long list full of info?

[MoYS]

Ok I have some sort of a beginning of a wiki on many flip phones. Any specific way it should be posted? Just copy paste it as a regular post? Should I link it as a pdf download? Anyone know what's the best option for this type of long list full of info?

THANK YOU!
If it will come out decently by copy paste, do that, theres no reason to make it harder to access, but if it will lose the chart aspect, you can either make it a pdf, or if its a google doc/sheet you can publish it to the web and they give you a link.

[Jojo202]

List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
Please like if this helps you.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $150

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system.


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)

Verizon Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.com and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

[EliJelly]

No mention of the LG Exalt vn220 bugs? This alone should put it in shadow of the Kyocera phones.

Any preference for the new Kyocera DuraXV Extreme over the old?

[phillyrabbi]

Does anyone know where I can buy a kosher phone with a QWERTY keypad - GSM 4G Unlocked? If someone's selling please pm me. Need this to work with T-Mobile. Thank you