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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
Please like if this helps you.
LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #690 on: June 07, 2020, 11:12:22 AM »
Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.
What happens when you put in the US Mobile Sim? Also go to Settings>about phone>Hardware info and tell me what it says under Model number.
Which target did you get it from? I haven't seen them around in ages!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #691 on: June 07, 2020, 06:11:18 PM »
Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.
Are you trying to activate with us mobile using the device's IMEI? Or are you just popping in an already active sim?

You can call Verizon to ask about unlock eligibility they have a dashboard that can show it
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #692 on: June 07, 2020, 08:40:47 PM »
Is there anyway to filter the lg exalt with leaving on WiFi calling

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #693 on: June 08, 2020, 10:00:02 AM »
Is there anyway to filter the lg exalt with leaving on WiFi calling
I think the standard filter leaves it.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #694 on: June 08, 2020, 12:02:55 PM »
Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.
You gotta call Verizon to unlock

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #695 on: June 08, 2020, 08:21:48 PM »
Maybe its time for a wiki of all available phones and their respective filtering options and capabilities.

Ok I have some sort of a beginning of a wiki on many flip phones. Any specific way it should be posted? Just copy paste it as a regular post? Should I link it as a pdf download? Anyone know what's the best option for this type of long list full of info?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #696 on: June 08, 2020, 08:30:49 PM »
Ok I have some sort of a beginning of a wiki on many flip phones. Any specific way it should be posted? Just copy paste it as a regular post? Should I link it as a pdf download? Anyone know what's the best option for this type of long list full of info?
THANK YOU!
If it will come out decently by copy paste, do that, theres no reason to make it harder to access, but if it will lose the chart aspect, you can either make it a pdf, or if its a google doc/sheet you can publish it to the web and they give you a link.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #697 on: June 09, 2020, 12:06:52 AM »
List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
Please like if this helps you.
LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $150

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system.


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)

Verizon Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.com and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #698 on: June 09, 2020, 12:20:40 AM »
No mention of the LG Exalt vn220 bugs? This alone should put it in shadow of the Kyocera phones.

Any preference for the new Kyocera DuraXV Extreme over the old?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #699 on: June 09, 2020, 12:15:38 PM »
Does anyone know where I can buy a kosher phone with a QWERTY keypad - GSM 4G Unlocked? If someone's selling please pm me. Need this to work with T-Mobile. Thank you

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #700 on: June 09, 2020, 01:35:36 PM »
No mention of the LG Exalt vn220 bugs? This alone should put it in shadow of the Kyocera phones.

Any preference for the new Kyocera DuraXV Extreme over the old?
Some of the  bugs can be fixed/ have workarounds.
Its the most functional of all the above
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #701 on: June 09, 2020, 01:43:55 PM »
No mention of the LG Exalt vn220 bugs? This alone should put it in shadow of the Kyocera phones.

Any preference for the new Kyocera DuraXV Extreme over the old?
Just curious what bugs in specific you are talking about? No go to home screen while on a call? t9 doesnt add contacts to dictionary?

In regards to the Dura XV, here is a pretty comprehensive review from verizons website

★★★★☆4 out of 5.
Steve·2 months ago
A nice upgrade from the DuraXV
After owning the Kyocera DuraXV for a year and being reasonably pleased with its performance, I just had to take the leap for the Extreme. Still early in the game here with it but overall to me it was worth the upgrade.
 
 Here are my personal pros and cons with the new Extreme version:
 
 Pros:
 * It feels somewhat more robust in the hand. It's still encased in a plastic body with hard rubber around the outer corners. It is certainly comfortable to hold and my hands are about average sized. It might be slightly heavier than the former DuraXV. Not a big deal. Battery capacity is a little more, not by much though. Kyocera claims safely dropping it from up to 5 feet but I'm not sure I would want to test that. I've owned older Motorola phones that you could drop a concrete block on and not even think twice about it. This one, well, I suppose you could beat it around some but even so treat it nicely when you can :)
 
 * Faster processor. The phone boots up faster than the former DuraXV and the phone overall has a snappier feel to it. This in itself makes it a worthy upgrade if for nothing else.
 
 * The flip is springy and robust. It's a U-shape as compared to the former V-shape. I certainly dig the new U-shape!
 
 * The display is just as clear as the former. Easy to see in the daylight.
 
 * The keypad buttons are a little softer this time. But still about the same as the DuraXV.
 
 * Call quality appears to be as good as before. Very easy to hear on the ear piece and speaker phone is LOUD. Phone ringer is also LOUD, perhaps even louder than the former XV. Reports from the caller is that I was heard loud and strong on their end. The handset now supports a noise reduction which I tested and could tell some difference. With NR on, you have to speak a little louder into the handset which make sense. For most of us buying just to own a better grade basic phone, you might could turn it off. It would be more useful out in a noisy work area as opposed to a quieter home environment.
 
 * Software is MUCH better. An improved updated version of AOSP. Texting screen is different, perhaps a little something new to get used to but not bad. Texts show up in a bubble instead of just plain old print on the screen as before.
 
 * Camera is ok, about like before. It won't win awards but for capturing something on the fly, it works fine. Its all you need if you're buying a handset such as this.
 
 * The outside screen has not changed (which is a good thing).
 
 Cons:
 * The outside button placement: The up/down volume controls are now located on the lower left hand side of the phone where a person's middle finger would rest and its easy to forget and to squeeze the handset thereby disturbing the setting. Not a good choice here, Kyocera.
 
 * The outside buttons are also easier to push - their tactile feel is softer which means they can be easily triggered. With the former DuraXV, you had to "push" the button of your choice. This one simply requires a generally soft push, especially the up/down volume which is a hassle.
 
 * The phone now supports USB-C instead of the universal micro-USB. I know, I'm probably going to get some down thumbs for this but I consider it a personal preference. I want my micro-USB port back! I have loads of micro-USB cables and yes there is a USB-C cable included in the box but now I have to invest in a mobile charger that supports the C cable. Bummer!
 
 Some final notes:
 * Micro SD card support works fine as with the DuraXV. I use a Sandisk 64gb mobile (red/gray) card and it works flawlessly. Same my camera pics on it and works great.
 
 * Battery charging speed is about on par with the DuraXV. From 50% to full takes around 40 minutes, maybe a little longer. Not bad for a basic phone.
 
 In short- Would I recommend this phone? Yep! If you just bought the older XV, meh, wait it out and enjoy what you have but if you've owned an XV for a while and want to upgrade to a faster handset with improved features and overall just a good reliable basic phone, you won't go wrong with the Extreme. Just keep in mind that this thing is built heavy duty. It isn't for everyone and for some it might be a bit bulky, even a touch more bulky than the original DuraXV. Apart from the quirky outside buttons and USB-C, this is definitely the phone for me!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #702 on: June 09, 2020, 01:48:28 PM »
Some of the  bugs can be fixed/ have workarounds.
Its the most functional of all the above

True that some bugs have workarounds, but what do you mean by most functional? I think a front screen and being able to use the home screen are very imoortant functions. I think people just prefer the look of LG over the cadence...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #704 on: June 14, 2020, 03:13:15 PM »
does anybody know if a locked tracfone can be used on verizon regular?