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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #740 on: June 26, 2020, 12:57:37 PM »
yes

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #741 on: June 26, 2020, 01:07:08 PM »
yes
Then you're probably entering some setting wrongly, hard to assume what.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #742 on: June 26, 2020, 01:11:52 PM »
i saw online that g suite starting june 15th doesn't allow unsecured apps anymore access

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #743 on: June 26, 2020, 01:14:48 PM »
Great List! Thanks for the shout out to KosherCell. Just a correction, the website is KosherCell.org not .com.



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #744 on: June 26, 2020, 01:16:08 PM »
i saw online that g suite starting june 15th doesn't allow unsecured apps anymore access
They delayed it for now https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2020/03/less-secure-app-turn-off-suspended.html

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #745 on: June 29, 2020, 11:16:22 PM »
Anybody get their hands on the new LG WINE 2?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #746 on: June 29, 2020, 11:22:30 PM »
Anybody get their hands on the new LG WINE 2?
I played around with one at a store. (You would salivate over the price)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #747 on: June 29, 2020, 11:53:54 PM »
Anybody get their hands on the new LG WINE 2?
Got a US Cellular one, but am having a real problem figuring out what service it works with. So far,
NO SERVICE: ATT, Verizon Prepaid.
ONLY OUTGOING: Verizon Postpaid
ONLY INTERNET: T-Mobile
Page plus first had only outgoing but eventually started working.
Any hints??

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #748 on: June 29, 2020, 11:57:18 PM »
Hi having an issue logging in to my gsuite email on the kyocera phone. i turned off less secure apps and 2 step authentication. Does anybody know of a workaround?
When you attempt to log in are you getting a security email from Gmail? try verifying that it was you that tried to log in and not to block that app.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #749 on: June 30, 2020, 12:03:24 AM »
Got a US Cellular one, but am having a real problem figuring out what service it works with. So far,
NO SERVICE: ATT, Verizon Prepaid.
ONLY OUTGOING: Verizon Postpaid
ONLY INTERNET: T-Mobile
Page plus first had only outgoing but eventually started working.
Any hints??
Is it locked? IMS Provisioned? Are the APNs correct?
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« Reply #750 on: June 30, 2020, 12:56:56 PM »
Is it locked? IMS Provisioned? Are the APNs correct?
Thats what I am unsure about. Doesnt ever prompt for unlock code. Didnt try the APN though. will try that. What is IMS Provisioned?

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« Reply #751 on: June 30, 2020, 06:40:46 PM »
what options are currently available for physical QWERTY keyboard, (pref feature phone) on ATT?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #752 on: June 30, 2020, 07:21:32 PM »
Does the Alcatel Go Flip ATT (3) work with 4g on AT&T?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #753 on: June 30, 2020, 10:34:48 PM »
Does the Alcatel Go Flip ATT (3) work with 4g on AT&T?

 Found this in the wiki.

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Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
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« Reply #754 on: June 30, 2020, 10:36:03 PM »
 What do you guys do to get these flip phones unlocked to use wherever you want?
 bought an unlocking code from ebay or bought an unlocked version?
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« Reply #755 on: June 30, 2020, 10:38:43 PM »
Does the Alcatel Go Flip ATT (3) work with 4g on AT&T?
As well as the https://www.target.com/p/cricket-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-phone-4gb-black/-/A-76616248
 Wonder if this works for at&t.
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« Reply #756 on: June 30, 2020, 10:39:32 PM »
Found this in the wiki.
That's where I saw it! Just was wondering since some phones said that they were different "g"s on different networks.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #757 on: June 30, 2020, 10:42:19 PM »
When you attempt to log in are you getting a security email from Gmail? try verifying that it was you that tried to log in and not to block that app.
didn't get any email from Gmail. I think it’s an issue with the device.

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« Reply #758 on: June 30, 2020, 10:45:53 PM »
That's where I saw it! Just was wondering since some phones said that they were different "g"s on different networks.
Seems like this is the go to phone, but $100 when you can get a similar one for $10-$30.

https://www.target.com/p/schok-classic-flip-phone-gsm-unlocked-8gb-black/-/A-76624611
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« Reply #759 on: June 30, 2020, 10:48:37 PM »
Seems like this is the go to phone, but $100 when you can get a similar one for $10-$30.

https://www.target.com/p/schok-classic-flip-phone-gsm-unlocked-8gb-black/-/A-76624611
Right, for AT&T those are my options - Alcatel Go Flip 3 or Schok. Just need to figure out if I should even consider the Alcatel or go straight to Schok. The only thing reviewers didn't like about it is that the volume buttons are pressable when the phone is closed, so you can end up adjusting the volume by mistake if it's in a pocket or something. But not sure if that's enough of a drawback to not buy it, and it's got to be better than what I have now.
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