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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #820 on: August 09, 2020, 06:29:14 PM »
If you're okay with the form factor then the kyocera sounds like a good choice. The orbic journey L is really a bad phone but it looks like it doesnt have any internet so you can save on TAG fees. otherwise I hear the Allcatel is okay.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #821 on: August 09, 2020, 07:20:04 PM »
Dura XV Extreme is the way to go. If you want to filter it you can do it with the built in MDM, a friend or anyone can have the code and it's locked. You can block apps, SMS etc. It's the by far the best flip phone I ever had.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #822 on: August 10, 2020, 11:13:08 AM »
If you're okay with the form factor then the kyocera sounds like a good choice. The orbic journey L is really a bad phone but it looks like it doesnt have any internet so you can save on TAG fees. otherwise I hear the Allcatel is okay.
orbic journey L is really a bad phone

In what regards?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #823 on: August 10, 2020, 09:25:08 PM »
(in my opinion:) Feels extremely slow and sluggish, delayed response to button presses. Has lots of bugs (similar to the other phoned but a bit more pronounced). Hinge feels weak and easy to break. This is only in comparison to the Kyocera and LG models. With all the garbage that has flooded the market like the Kazuna, the orbic might be an OK option...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #824 on: August 11, 2020, 12:32:07 AM »
orbic journey L is really a bad phone

In what regards?
By chance, I used today this phone from a friend and it's unusably slow!

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« Reply #825 on: August 11, 2020, 01:25:52 AM »
By chance, I used today this phone from a friend and it's unusably slow!
In what way ?

 Did he have it loaded with music and pictures?

 For someone who's only going to use this for calling maybe once every 5 days for a text, you think It should be a problem?

 The orbic Journey V
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« Reply #826 on: August 11, 2020, 01:38:23 AM »
In what way ?

 Did he have it loaded with music and pictures?

 For someone who's only going to use this for calling maybe once every 5 days for a text, you think It should be a problem?

 The orbic Journey V
Didn't use it an lot, and out wasn't loaded with anything.

I just did several calls on it and the response time from key press to execution was huge.

Just one example, I had a cat and mouse gameb of 5-7 presses until I was able to get it to speaker phone, I pressed and when it took too long I thought I didn't press so I pressed again... and then the first press happened.. and that several times.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #827 on: August 11, 2020, 01:41:06 AM »
Didn't use it an lot, and out wasn't loaded with anything.

I just did several calls on it and the response time from key press to execution was huge.

Just one example, I had a cat and mouse gameb of 5-7 presses until I was able to get it to speaker phone, I pressed and when it took too long I thought I didn't press so I pressed again... and then the first press happened.. and that several times.
Tried helping an older neighbor, got for them this free phone for an upgrade.

 I'm feeling bad now.

 Supposed to arrive on Wednesday not sure if I should give it to them...
  It's used mainly for calling and that's about it.
  Max 20-30 contacts in it.
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« Reply #828 on: August 11, 2020, 01:47:13 AM »
Tried helping an older neighbor, got for them this free phone for an upgrade.

 I'm feeling bad now.

 Supposed to arrive on Wednesday not sure if I should give it to them...
  It's used mainly for calling and that's about it.
  Max 20-30 contacts in it.
I guess try it yourself, maybe the one I was using was just in a bad mood (I know I'm computers it can sometimes happen...) or I'm just used to too good (smartphones and the LG Exalt.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #829 on: August 11, 2020, 01:49:42 AM »
I guess try it yourself, maybe the one I was using was just in a bad mood (I know I'm computers it can sometimes happen...) or I'm just used to too good (smartphones and the LG Exalt.)
     I guess I'll play around with it beforehand and see if there's anything that's a no no.

 And should they not be happy I'll swap it for them for another device.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #830 on: August 11, 2020, 10:00:40 AM »
No its really horrible. Thats part of the problem: all people want is a phone that can call and text reliably and all we get are fake chinese knockoff models that have a huge key press delay just to dial a phone number

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« Reply #831 on: August 11, 2020, 04:39:22 PM »
No its really horrible. Thats part of the problem: all people want is a phone that can call and text reliably and all we get are fake chinese knockoff models that have a huge key press delay just to dial a phone number
I guess I'll try it out for a bit and if it's that bad I'll work on another model.
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« Reply #832 on: August 11, 2020, 04:39:47 PM »
No its really horrible. Thats part of the problem: all people want is a phone that can call and text reliably and all we get are fake chinese knockoff models that have a huge key press delay just to dial a phone number
is the sound at least somewhat decent?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #833 on: August 17, 2020, 10:51:13 AM »
Tello has for $4 now for the first month because of July 4th.

https://tello.com/

It uses Sprint if that helps.

Does it work in Lakewood?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #834 on: August 17, 2020, 04:15:08 PM »
Does it work in Lakewood?
Friend has been using this for a while.

 Sprint has decent service in Lakewood.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #835 on: August 17, 2020, 04:16:17 PM »
Does it work in Lakewood?
Yes, my whole family uses it on flip phones. Although I heard that the data sucks

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« Reply #837 on: August 17, 2020, 05:33:31 PM »
Yes, my whole family uses it on flip phones. Although I heard that the data sucks
If you're using it on a flip phone I don't think you need data!
   Do they even have some decent data plans?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #838 on: August 17, 2020, 05:50:18 PM »
Can this be used with Verizon?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Smartphone/679025506?comm-msg-vehicle=EMAIL&comm-msg-id=c5c1f4c4-38f7-42b9-9ead-2668c48ff058
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But the screen on the outside of lid does not provide caller information. So with that setting you will be answering every call before you know who it is. Because of that, "push any button to answer" is the wiser choice. Then you can check the inner screen before you answer.

 Other than that sing like a decent phone..

You might need to have it unlocked.
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