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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #860 on: August 24, 2020, 10:46:50 PM »
When it says Carrier Locked for example on this listing https://www.amazon.com/TracFone-ZTE-Z233-Prepaid-Phone/dp/B074HY3LRB/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Tracfone+Wireless+LG+Classic+Flip&qid=1598282617&s=wireless&sr=1-3

Does it really mean its carrier locked or is it possible to use unlock and use outside the US?
You can always find or pay for an unlocking Service.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #861 on: August 24, 2020, 10:48:01 PM »
I’ve never done this in the past..... it’s not a code, you give them the IMEI and they manually unlock it...... I hope I didn’t get ripped off....
The three ways I'm familiar with is plugging in a code/pin.
 
 Using team viewer and having them unlock it for you while phone is connected.

And unlocking it in the system with giving the IMEI.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #862 on: August 25, 2020, 12:03:57 AM »
And unlocking it in the system with giving the IMEI.
so I guess this is what I did, (and paid $50 for it), takes around 4 days....

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« Reply #863 on: August 25, 2020, 12:24:32 AM »
so I guess this is what I did, (and paid $50 for it), takes around 4 days....
Keep me posted if it works.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #864 on: August 25, 2020, 02:23:36 AM »
so I guess this is what I did, (and paid $50 for it), takes around 4 days....
Sounds like an employee trying to make a buck or some small prepaid carrier abusing the system.

In israel you'll find guys to get an American phone to work with a meushar sim for around 80 NIS
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #865 on: August 25, 2020, 08:12:02 AM »
Sounds like an employee trying to make a buck or some small prepaid carrier abusing the system.

In israel you'll find guys to get an American phone to work with a meushar sim for around 80 NIS
Yeah its called spoofing the IMEI; Kosher Phones only work with certain IMEI numbers; I posted a link to those IMEI numbers somewhere on here on the Forums.
The experience I have had is that the phones whose IMEI numbers have been spoofed have better service then the actual "Kosher Phones" then sell in stores. If only I can figure how to do it myself  ::)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #866 on: August 25, 2020, 07:28:53 PM »
Yeah its called spoofing the IMEI; Kosher Phones only work with certain IMEI numbers; I posted a link to those IMEI numbers somewhere on here on the Forums.
The experience I have had is that the phones whose IMEI numbers have been spoofed have better service then the actual "Kosher Phones" then sell in stores. If only I can figure how to do it myself  ::)
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=102932.msg2082664#msg2082664
I'm pretty sure you can do it with these boxes/software. I never looked into it much but I think this is how all the guys do network unlocking
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« Reply #867 on: August 25, 2020, 11:00:08 PM »
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I'm pretty sure you can do it with these boxes/software. I never looked into it much but I think this is how all the guys do network unlocking
I wouldn't mind a lesson or two on how all this works.

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« Reply #868 on: August 26, 2020, 06:34:40 AM »
I wouldn't mind a lesson or two on how all this works.

 If you find someone, keep me posted. I'll definitely join.
Me too.
Anyone know anyone who is willing to give a class or two over Zoom. I would even be willing a to pay a  drop for it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #869 on: August 27, 2020, 02:35:12 PM »
Me too.
Anyone know anyone who is willing to give a class or two over Zoom. I would even be willing a to pay a  drop for it.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #870 on: August 27, 2020, 03:20:06 PM »
+1

So know we have 3... maybe we should post on DDF DO Board to see if anyone is willing is join and if anyone is willing to give the class.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #873 on: August 28, 2020, 12:42:47 PM »
Any way to mute a conversation on the new Dura Extreme?
It seems like it doesn't have the message plus app. Any work around?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #874 on: August 28, 2020, 01:41:18 PM »
I have the Wine II from US cellular. It doesn't seem to be locked but I cant find any service that it works with. A friend told me he got it to work for red pocket but not working for me. T-mobile, only Internet (4g) works but cant make calls. Verizon, works sometimes... on and off. sometimes only incoming or outgoing...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #875 on: August 28, 2020, 01:42:31 PM »
Interesting to note that the LG exalt (suddenly?) started having 4g service with T-mobile. used to be only 2g. Still bad for the kyocera...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #876 on: August 30, 2020, 01:08:19 AM »
Found a legit site for $50, will give it a shot so we can know if it’s doable at all.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #877 on: August 30, 2020, 02:12:44 AM »
Ok thanks for trying! It would be a big help to all of us to find out if its possible. I just have a bad feeling because every time they give that type of answer they end up saying that its not possible... I dont know what is it with the flip phones that a lot of companies have issues with the IMEI's. Even Verizon has issues with their own sometimes!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #878 on: August 31, 2020, 11:14:31 PM »
Any response yet?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #879 on: September 01, 2020, 02:29:07 PM »
Same phone. Different networks.

What do you mean by different networks?
TracFone will work on Verizon correct

US Cellular?