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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1040 on: December 07, 2020, 07:00:19 PM »
Could anyone please update the wiki about the LG classic? Thanks
Added. I claim no ownership... everyone can edit to add.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1041 on: December 07, 2020, 08:08:09 PM »
Being that page plus is owned by tracfone would it work on the classic?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Plus_Cellular
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1042 on: December 07, 2020, 08:55:23 PM »
Being that page plus is owned by tracfone would it work on the classic?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Plus_Cellular
Yes, should. (The should is because it can be a branded device to a specific brand and in that case you might need to work a bit to get them to re-brand it, which is true between the other Tracfone carriers as well.)

PP even sells this device https://www.pagepluscellular.com/phones/lg-classic-flip/

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1043 on: December 09, 2020, 09:31:45 AM »
Looking for good quality non-smartphone with a full keyboard, to be used with a SIM on one of Canada's leading networks (Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido).

All suggestions appreciated.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1044 on: December 09, 2020, 09:59:23 PM »
Looking for good quality non-smartphone with a full keyboard, to be used with a SIM on one of Canada's leading networks (Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido).

All suggestions appreciated.
'Non-smartphone' and 'full-keyboard' don't go together anymore...
My only (somewhat) suggestion is www.thelightphone.com with it's on-screen full keyboard.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1045 on: December 14, 2020, 09:09:03 PM »
Get the LG Classic and if you want it on Verizon buy the Net10 Model if you want it on Tmobile buy the Walmart Mobile one and I can filter it for $25
I was hoping the walmart braded one would work with T-Mobile, no luck.(Invalid sim).
   And the Tracfone one did not work for Verizon service with a Verizon sim.

 There must be one of these places that can unlock it for you still haven't found one yet.

 
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REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1046 on: December 14, 2020, 09:19:53 PM »
I was hoping the walmart braded one would work with T-Mobile, no luck.(Invalid sim).
   And the Tracfone one did not work for Verizon service with a Verizon sim.

 There must be one of these places that can unlock it for you still haven't found one yet.
The Walmart one works on T-Mobile network but locked to Tracfone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1047 on: December 14, 2020, 09:31:34 PM »
The Walmart one works on T-Mobile network but locked to Tracfone.
Indeed as I tried with my T-Mobile SIM card and was not successful.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1048 on: December 15, 2020, 06:57:58 PM »
If a google voice number forwards to a cell phone (not smartphone), is there any way to make outgoing calls from the cell phone using the GV number?
(I am assuming not but asking just in case)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1049 on: December 15, 2020, 07:00:16 PM »
If a google voice number forwards to a cell phone (not smartphone), is there any way to make outgoing calls from the cell phone using the GV number?
(I am assuming not but asking just in case)
Not automatically, but you can dial out from the Google Voice menu option 2.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1050 on: December 15, 2020, 07:02:39 PM »
Not automatically, but you can dial out from the Google Voice menu option 2.
Even without a smartphone? How does it work?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1051 on: December 15, 2020, 07:07:44 PM »
Even without a smartphone? How does it work?
In the menu that you call in to listen to your voicemails you can press 2 to make an outgoing call.

You call to the GV number and press * when you get to the VM greeting (or set in the GV setting online that it should right away go to the menu when calling from your number, to change this setting you'd need to switch to the old GV interface [https://www.google.com/voice/b/0/redirection/voice] there you should find it under Phones>Edit>Advanced.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1052 on: December 15, 2020, 07:12:33 PM »
In the menu that you call in to listen to your voicemails you can press 2 to make an outgoing call.

You call to the GV number and press * when you get to the VM greeting (or set in the GV setting online that it should right away go to the menu when calling from your number, to change this setting you'd need to switch to the old GV interface [https://www.google.com/voice/b/0/redirection/voice] there you should find it under Phones>Edit>Advanced.)
got it, thanks!
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1053 on: December 15, 2020, 08:55:07 PM »
If a google voice number forwards to a cell phone (not smartphone), is there any way to make outgoing calls from the cell phone using the GV number?
(I am assuming not but asking just in case)
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« Reply #1054 on: December 15, 2020, 10:28:06 PM »
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1056 on: December 16, 2020, 12:12:44 AM »
If a google voice number forwards to a cell phone (not smartphone), is there any way to make outgoing calls from the cell phone using the GV number?
(I am assuming not but asking just in case)
when a gv text forwards, every contact gets its own unique number and when you call or text that number from your regular number it calls/texts as if you were using gv. There's also the option mentioned above but this is easier, only downside is that they need to text you first for you to get that number.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1057 on: December 16, 2020, 10:32:15 AM »
In the menu that you call in to listen to your voicemails you can press 2 to make an outgoing call.

You call to the GV number and press * when you get to the VM greeting (or set in the GV setting online that it should right away go to the menu when calling from your number, to change this setting you'd need to switch to the old GV interface [https://www.google.com/voice/b/0/redirection/voice] there you should find it under Phones>Edit>Advanced.)
I don't have such an option
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1058 on: December 16, 2020, 10:40:33 AM »
I don't have such an option
Don't have this:

What do you see there?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1059 on: December 16, 2020, 10:57:37 AM »
Don't have this:

What do you see there?
I guess I gotta add a phone first.
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