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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1140 on: December 21, 2020, 01:52:19 PM »
You worry about it when the year is up. Lol
 I'm sure they can just continue your service once you have the card.

 And to answer your third question, yes the Kyocera Cadence(lg exalt as well) is a much better phone than the LG classic flip.

 It's better in a way that it's a bit faster doesn't have any type of skip lag.
  Not that the LG classic has a skip flag that you're going to notice.
   
 
   While I did play around with LG classic flip it is definitely a great phone compared to all other junks out there.
  But no it's not the best phone out there.
 But if you do need a phone that's my go-to phone.

You are comparing a $30 phone to a $200 phone.... Show me 1 phone that cost $30 that is better then the LG Classic?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1141 on: December 21, 2020, 01:52:34 PM »
Thank you for the advice! Is there an AT&T service/plan that you know it could work with? Such as Net10 or similar?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1142 on: December 21, 2020, 02:23:52 PM »
You are comparing a $30 phone to a $200 phone.... Show me 1 phone that cost $30 that is better then the LG Classic?
Agree but you are making up for the price with basically a 1yr contract. An unlocked Kyocera Or LG Exalt can cost you less than $15 a month (us cellular) and in the long run possibly save you money... and a better phone..,

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1143 on: December 21, 2020, 02:47:59 PM »
Agree but you are making up for the price with basically a 1yr contract. An unlocked Kyocera Or LG Exalt can cost you less than $15 a month (us cellular) and in the long run possibly save you money... and a better phone..,

Still not the same thing. You cant get that phone on a $10 or $20 plan. Not everyone can afford a $200 device.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1144 on: December 21, 2020, 02:50:37 PM »
You can get the Verizon LG Classic + one month of service for $50 at target and get a $40 gift card, so your OOP is $10. Then it's just $20/month for the cheapest plan with unlimited talk/text.
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« Reply #1145 on: December 21, 2020, 02:52:00 PM »
Lol, your kind of cute.
 
 What if I told you once upon a time the Kyocera Cadence was $30, and so was the LG Exalt.
  And now added to the  collection is the LG classic, the same run of the mill valued at $30 NOW!
  One major caveat of the device in this scenario is that it's locked to tracfone and not unlocked or locked to Verizon.

 That will definitely keep the phone at a lower price for a bit until an unlock code/key is generated for use in the public without the required Yr of service.

 What I find quite ironic here, is usually the prices of cell phones go down not up.
 But in the market of flip phones where there are very few decent, good solid phones, as soon as a manufacturer stops making a select device which people loved,
  Then those devices will be worth a lot more money as it's hard to come by.
 
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« Reply #1146 on: December 21, 2020, 02:56:01 PM »
Still not the same thing. You cant get that phone on a $10 or $20 plan. Not everyone can afford a $200 device.
FTFY

 And btw way I can get you a Kyocera for $100-$125. Brand new!
 So the $200 market is maybe for the exalt which I have yet to see around brand new. I happen to have 6 of them which I have laying around with broken ribbon cables.
 Need to have them fixed when I get around to it.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1147 on: December 21, 2020, 02:57:37 PM »
If you want the LG Classic I prefer the Walmart Mobile one because it uses T-Mobile towers and also supports wifi calling.
Does wifi calling work even with the filter installed?
And does it work on the verizon cdma version?
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« Reply #1148 on: December 21, 2020, 03:00:26 PM »
Does wifi calling work even with the filter installed?
And does it work on the verizon cdma version?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
 It's so complicated to get the Bands for each device.
 Will try with the FCC number and see what's listed.

 Not quite sure why someone would use a GSM phone to use on Verizon when you can very nicely use a CDMA phone which I would assume has more bands for its service when using CDMA.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1149 on: December 21, 2020, 03:03:40 PM »
And btw way I can get you a Kyocera for $100-$125. Brand new!
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« Reply #1150 on: December 21, 2020, 04:24:47 PM »
my question was if wifi calling works on the verizon lg classic
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« Reply #1151 on: December 21, 2020, 04:33:48 PM »
my question was if wifi calling works on the verizon lg classic

No wifi calling does not work on the Verizon model "tracfone" or net10 it only works on the Walmart Mobile brand and yes with MY filter wifi calling still works.
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« Reply #1152 on: December 21, 2020, 04:39:11 PM »
No wifi calling does not work on the Verizon model "tracfone" or net10 it only works on the Walmart Mobile brand and yes with MY filter wifi calling still works.
TY
I wonder why they made that difference between the verizon and the wm/tmobile versions!
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« Reply #1153 on: December 21, 2020, 05:25:45 PM »
  Now i will try tom bli neder to rebrand my walmart Lg classic to a NET10 phone (not even sure if you have to, should work without rebranding it.)
 But will confirm if it works tom sometime in the morning hopefully.
did you end up trying this? no pressure, just wondering
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1154 on: December 21, 2020, 05:59:16 PM »
TY
I wonder why they made that difference between the verizon and the wm/tmobile versions!

Could be that the Verizon agreement with Tracfone does not support it. I have some other LG Wine LTE that I can add it enable Wifi calling if it does not have it enabled in the software.
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« Reply #1155 on: December 21, 2020, 06:00:40 PM »
Lol, your kind of cute.

 That will definitely keep the phone at a lower price for a bit until an unlock code/key is generated for use in the public without the required Yr of service.

 

This is funny... Getting a unlock code for a tracfone has not worked in a long time and will never work. Their software is not unlockable with a code. Would be helpful if you actually did some research on this.
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« Reply #1156 on: December 21, 2020, 06:03:03 PM »
Could be that the Verizon agreement with Tracfone does not support it. I have some other LG Wine LTE that I can add it enable Wifi calling if it does not have it enabled in the software.
Well if you ever are able to add it to the verizon lg classic that would be awesome!
Looks like that's the phone I'll end up keeping. Already have your filter installed (by tag)
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« Reply #1157 on: December 21, 2020, 06:30:33 PM »
Well if you ever are able to add it to the verizon lg classic that would be awesome!
Looks like that's the phone I'll end up keeping. Already have your filter installed (by tag)

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« Reply #1158 on: December 21, 2020, 06:34:09 PM »
Hope you like it and if not let me know and I will see how I can improve it or help.
So far so good! TY
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1159 on: December 21, 2020, 09:51:06 PM »
Does anybody know what network Selectel Wireless uses?
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