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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1160 on: December 21, 2020, 11:18:47 PM »
Does anybody know what network Selectel Wireless uses?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1161 on: December 21, 2020, 11:20:45 PM »
C'mon GIYF!


Couldn't find it on their website anywhere! Thx.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1162 on: December 22, 2020, 03:35:33 AM »
did you end up trying this? no pressure, just wondering
So I did try using my Walmart Branded TracFone which is a T-Mobile gsm device and used a tracfone verizon sim and it worked just fine. Had 4g LTE service.

 So I would assume vice versa using the same phone with TracFone service which uses at&t or T-Mobile it should work just fine.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1163 on: December 22, 2020, 03:37:44 AM »
So I did try using my Walmart Branded TracFone which is a T-Mobile gsm device and used a tracfone verizon sim and it worked just fine. Had 4g LTE service.

 So I would assume vice versa using the same phone with TracFone service which uses at&t or T-Mobile it should work just fine.

 Spent a few minutes with Net10 trying to have them rebrand it, they said they don't have access to the Walmart brand and I would need to reach out to the walmart brand.

 In the meantime just popped out the sim and tried it in the phone(Walmart LG classic GSM model) it worked without rebranding.
 Not quite sure how or why everything is compatible with the LG classics even though it's a GSM.
 Unless both models have all the bands that CDMA have and GSM have to offer.
 Then not quite sure why they're calling it GSM, unless the few added features like Wi-Fi calling?
 
 Here's a screenshot just to verify that it worked.



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1164 on: December 22, 2020, 12:54:40 PM »

 Spent a few minutes with Net10 trying to have them rebrand it, they said they don't have access to the Walmart brand and I would need to reach out to the walmart brand.

 In the meantime just popped out the sim and tried it in the phone(Walmart LG classic GSM model) it worked without rebranding.
 Not quite sure how or why everything is compatible with the LG classics even though it's a GSM.
 Unless both models have all the bands that CDMA have and GSM have to offer.
 Then not quite sure why they're calling it GSM, unless the few added features like Wi-Fi calling?
 
 Here's a screenshot just to verify that it worked.



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1165 on: December 22, 2020, 05:42:36 PM »
Can the walmart mobile lg classic be used with a T-Mobile sim card?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1166 on: December 22, 2020, 09:17:04 PM »
Can the walmart mobile lg classic be used with a T-Mobile sim card?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1167 on: December 22, 2020, 09:22:29 PM »
Does anybody know if Selected Wireless has better service/reception than Tracfone (verizon)?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1168 on: December 23, 2020, 12:32:37 AM »
Another Question:
Why are people that switch from Verizon Pre/Postpaid to Tracfone, complaining about worse service? If it runs on verizon, according to the company and much google searching it would seem to have the same coverage, with the only downside being data speed... why are people having issues with voice calls clarity/coverage?

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« Reply #1169 on: December 23, 2020, 06:52:08 AM »
Another Question:
Why are people that switch from Verizon Pre/Postpaid to Tracfone, complaining about worse service? If it runs on verizon, according to the company and much google searching it would seem to have the same coverage, with the only downside being data speed... why are people having issues with voice calls clarity/coverage?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1170 on: December 23, 2020, 09:07:40 AM »
Carriers prioritize their own traffic over MVNOs
Is Selectel also an MVNO?
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« Reply #1172 on: December 23, 2020, 11:14:57 AM »
Does anybody know if Selected Wireless has better service/reception than Tracfone (verizon)?

Maybe better customer service
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1173 on: December 23, 2020, 03:07:44 PM »
Maybe better customer service
Do any of these cheaper companies on the Verizon network allow you to dial Canada directly ?

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« Reply #1174 on: December 23, 2020, 03:40:07 PM »
Carriers prioritize their own traffic over MVNOs
Prioritize meaning...? that people should have service in certain areas even for a voice call because there are too many people on the phone in that area??

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« Reply #1175 on: December 23, 2020, 09:07:14 PM »
Do any of these cheaper companies on the Verizon network allow you to dial Canada directly ?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1176 on: December 23, 2020, 09:17:19 PM »
Net10 works outside the US? Or Tracfone?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1177 on: December 24, 2020, 12:41:37 AM »
Where can I but a solid (not junk) flip phone for a verizon contract (not prepaid) plan for under $100?
I already have the plan, but what verizon is selling online is Alcatel Go Flip V, Orbic Journey L or V, Kazuna etalk?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1178 on: December 24, 2020, 01:07:26 AM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1179 on: December 24, 2020, 12:22:59 PM »
Ok this has probably been discussed in here somewhere but I cant find it and dont want to go through 70 pages right now.

Quote from:  Wiki
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/

These are the only 4g options right now??
I currently have a Go flip 3 and HATE it. I have had very bad experience with the alcatel phones, cheaply built, lots of lag and just overall not a great phone.

I have yet to own the Schok, although I keep on considering trying it out. I'm assuming that it wasn't so great based off the fact that the price dropped in half since it came out.
(Then again thats normal with phones, although it doesnt seem to be that way in the flip phone market. In addition I noticed that theres no gen.2 that has come out since.) if anybody has had any experience with this phone I would love to hear more about it!

Based on the wiki I am assuming that there's no Kyocera that can be used 4g with T-Mobile.

I would love to move to a Verizon plan but I'm currently stuck with T-Mobile and cant change.

is there any good options for T-Mobile or is it similar to sprint, just you're actually paying for a decent plan and there's still no phones??

I'm assuming that a locked family mobile phone cant be used with T-Mobile, otherwise I would give the Family Mobile Classic Flip a try. If I'm wrong about this please let me know.

if anybody has any insight on this for me I would love for some help. TIA

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