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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1200 on: December 26, 2020, 09:24:33 PM »
As I said, "I don't know anything about it" :)
Will let it pass.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1201 on: December 26, 2020, 09:27:30 PM »
There was an ad in this weeks Yated for a free flip phone from Xchange Telecom with 1yr of service ($20 a month plan) until 12/31
https://www.xchangetele.com/homeconnex/home/mobileservices or call/text 718-663-0800 Mention Ad in application
The Ad says LG Classic or similar.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1202 on: December 26, 2020, 09:27:33 PM »
It's not 100% impossible its 10000% impossible to get an unlock code for ANY Tracfone and unlock the device. As far as an LG Wine 2 for T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T I do have 1 that works. 
It's so weird that I never came across the LG wine 2.
 
  Is there any difference between the wine two and the classic?
 
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1203 on: December 26, 2020, 11:11:27 PM »
It's so weird that I never came across the LG wine 2.
 
  Is there any difference between the wine two and the classic?

It makes sense that you never came across it because it is only sold through US Cellular that doesn't sell in the Northeast US, so its pretty hard to get your hands on one. The wine 2 seems to be the same hardware with slightly different software.

It does say clearly do not purchase this if you can't pull up the unlock screen.

Same idea here.
https://www.unlockriver.com/index.php?_route_=lg&product_id=14717

It's not 100% impossible its 10000% impossible to get an unlock code for ANY Tracfone and unlock the device. As far as an LG Wine 2 for T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T I do have 1 that works.  :P

Can you help me out with that? I actually got my hands on the Wine 2 got it supposedly "unlocked" from US cellular, and the Unlock code, but didn't see anywhere to input a code and couldn't get it working well with any service at all...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1204 on: December 27, 2020, 12:52:09 AM »
It makes sense that you never came across it because it is only sold through US Cellular that doesn't sell in the Northeast US, so its pretty hard to get your hands on one. The wine 2 seems to be the same hardware with slightly different software.

Same idea here.
https://www.unlockriver.com/index.php?_route_=lg&product_id=14717
 
Can you help me out with that? I actually got my hands on the Wine 2 got it supposedly "unlocked" from US cellular, and the Unlock code, but didn't see anywhere to input a code and couldn't get it working well with any service at all...

Mine works on all carriers.  ;)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1205 on: December 27, 2020, 01:16:19 AM »
Mine works on all carriers.  ;)
Dual sim?

 4g with all?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1206 on: December 27, 2020, 01:16:09 PM »
Dual sim?

 4g with all?

Dual sim? This phone does not have a dual sim slot... Not sure what phone you are talking about...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1207 on: December 27, 2020, 01:43:57 PM »


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1208 on: December 27, 2020, 09:34:07 PM »
Mine works on all carriers.  ;)
Please be clear. You have a leg phone that could be activated with straight Verizon service?
Does it support Message+?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1209 on: December 27, 2020, 11:03:33 PM »
Please be clear. You have a leg phone that could be activated with straight Verizon service?
Does it support Message+?
Activate all hardware supported bands via hidden menu and voila

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« Reply #1210 on: December 27, 2020, 11:13:30 PM »
Activate all hardware supported bands via hidden menu and voila
Is that supposed to help for Message+?

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« Reply #1211 on: December 27, 2020, 11:17:15 PM »
Is that supposed to help for Message+?
No, this is to make it work.
When you are talking about message plus please be clear what features you are talking about, AFAIK message plus as an app is simply A messaging app, if you're looking for the group messaging that is A Verizon network feature
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1212 on: December 28, 2020, 11:01:49 AM »

Just curious, where can you buy it for $30? I see it on some sites for $80, (down from$100) And as far as I heard, some stores in Boro Park were selling it for $100++...
If you look around on Ebay and other sites you can find it for 30-50 sometimes. I have even seen it in Target for 50- Brand New!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1213 on: December 28, 2020, 01:20:24 PM »
Activate all hardware supported bands via hidden menu and voila

No not really...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1214 on: December 28, 2020, 01:24:18 PM »
No, this is to make it work.
When you are talking about message plus please be clear what features you are talking about, AFAIK message plus as an app is simply A messaging app, if you're looking for the group messaging that is A Verizon network feature
Ok yes that probably what people meant by that, and simply put you probably cant get it on any other phones. Can you be more specific on the how to enable other networks?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1215 on: December 28, 2020, 01:26:16 PM »
If you look around on Ebay and other sites you can find it for 30-50 sometimes. I have even seen it in Target for 50- Brand New!
Wow. but that's probably because they are on clearance or something, because apparently they aren't selling it anymore. (dont see it on their website)

No not really...

Care to enlighten us?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1216 on: December 29, 2020, 06:07:45 PM »
Message+ Anyone  ;D

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1217 on: December 30, 2020, 01:28:14 AM »
Message+ Anyone  ;D


When will we be able to buy it?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1218 on: December 30, 2020, 04:47:07 PM »
Not sure if this was previously chatted about or if this is the correct forum. I have a smartphone but would like to have a flip phone when not at work. The flip phone should have call, text. Alternatively, I would have another smart phone fully filtered.

Without changing sim cards a few times a day. How can I have my calls and texts come through on both phones. I do want to have only 1 phone number.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1219 on: December 30, 2020, 06:43:28 PM »
Not sure if this was previously chatted about or if this is the correct forum. I have a smartphone but would like to have a flip phone when not at work. The flip phone should have call, text. Alternatively, I would have another smart phone fully filtered.

Without changing sim cards a few times a day. How can I have my calls and texts come through on both phones. I do want to have only 1 phone number.
Maybe T-Mobile DIGITS