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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1220 on: December 30, 2020, 07:32:50 PM »
Not sure if this was previously chatted about or if this is the correct forum. I have a smartphone but would like to have a flip phone when not at work. The flip phone should have call, text. Alternatively, I would have another smart phone fully filtered.

Without changing sim cards a few times a day. How can I have my calls and texts come through on both phones. I do want to have only 1 phone number.
Any smartwatch-like plan may work, or simply use GVoice
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1222 on: December 31, 2020, 04:08:20 PM »


Bands in my device are open to any supported network
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1223 on: December 31, 2020, 04:22:41 PM »
Bands in my device are open to any supported network
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)
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« Reply #1224 on: December 31, 2020, 04:43:53 PM »
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1226 on: December 31, 2020, 08:11:57 PM »
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)

Thank you for the kind words. This phone goes by the folder 2 and is sold all over the world.
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« Reply #1227 on: December 31, 2020, 11:38:11 PM »
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)
The folder2 words on Verizon?
 What does it sell for? Or what you selling it for?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1228 on: January 01, 2021, 03:26:07 PM »
The folder2 words on Verizon?
 What does it sell for? Or what you selling it for?
The folder 2 is an Asian version with Chinese buttons. Not sure you want it :-) . See https://droidchart.com/en/lg/lg-folder-2-lm-y120k-6588
Also, it's not available to buy in North America (in the future, maybe it will be available on eBay from oversea sellers..)

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« Reply #1229 on: January 01, 2021, 03:32:47 PM »
Folder 2? Say what? What a copied name!
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« Reply #1230 on: January 01, 2021, 03:36:27 PM »
Folder 2? Say what? What a copied name!
I thought that's what you guys are referring to.
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« Reply #1231 on: January 02, 2021, 02:26:48 PM »
The folder 2 is an Asian version with Chinese buttons. Not sure you want it :-) . See https://droidchart.com/en/lg/lg-folder-2-lm-y120k-6588
Also, it's not available to buy in North America (in the future, maybe it will be available on eBay from oversea sellers..)

It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
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« Reply #1232 on: January 02, 2021, 07:37:47 PM »
It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
So when are your phones being released?
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« Reply #1233 on: January 02, 2021, 07:42:31 PM »
So when are your phones being released?

Soon. Need to fix issue with Verizon MMS.
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« Reply #1234 on: January 02, 2021, 07:44:21 PM »
Soon. Need to fix issue with Verizon MMS.
Waiting patiently. Keep us posted.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1235 on: January 02, 2021, 08:22:50 PM »
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)

Hi, how did you find all available bands?

FCC  lists only

4GL TE/VoL TE/Vi LTE
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS Band 2/4/5
CDMA: BCD/ BC1 / BC10
LTE: 2/4/5/12/13/17/25/ 26

https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/2ALZM-SC3218/4509112.pdf

I know that FCC certification does not cover non-US bands but how did you find all of them?

I am asking because I would like to send this phone to my father in law in Israel where US bands are irrelevant.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1236 on: January 02, 2021, 11:53:57 PM »
Hi, how did you find all available bands?

FCC  lists only

4GL TE/VoL TE/Vi LTE
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS Band 2/4/5
CDMA: BCD/ BC1 / BC10
LTE: 2/4/5/12/13/17/25/ 26

https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/2ALZM-SC3218/4509112.pdf

I know that FCC certification does not cover non-US bands but how did you find all of them?

I am asking because I would like to send this phone to my father in law in Israel where US bands are irrelevant.


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The FCC info you provided is from the Schok Classic Flip https://www.schokgear.com, Not from the LG Wine 2.

However, you can find all the band's maintained above in the phone itself.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1237 on: January 03, 2021, 12:09:28 AM »
It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
The LG Folder 2 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.349839) is the Korean version of the LG Wine 2 (USC) / LG Classic Flip (TF).
Same as the LG Folder 1 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.323079) was the Korean version of the LG Exalt LTE.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1238 on: January 03, 2021, 12:55:23 PM »
The LG Folder 2 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.349839) is the Korean version of the LG Wine 2 (USC) / LG Classic Flip (TF).
Same as the LG Folder 1 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.323079) was the Korean version of the LG Exalt LTE.

Correct. I was using the folder 2 back when it came out for my testing.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1239 on: January 03, 2021, 03:39:12 PM »
The FCC info you provided is from the Schok Classic Flip https://www.schokgear.com, Not from the LG Wine 2.

However, you can find all the band's maintained above in the phone itself.

Thank you! But now I have another question: where can I find unlocked LG Wine 2? Tracfone's phones are not unlockable unless you are Tracfone's customer. Also, does unlocked LG Wine 2 support VoLTE of T-Mobile and Verizon?
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