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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1230 on: January 01, 2021, 03:36:27 PM »
Folder 2? Say what? What a copied name!
I thought that's what you guys are referring to.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1231 on: January 02, 2021, 02:26:48 PM »
The folder 2 is an Asian version with Chinese buttons. Not sure you want it :-) . See https://droidchart.com/en/lg/lg-folder-2-lm-y120k-6588
Also, it's not available to buy in North America (in the future, maybe it will be available on eBay from oversea sellers..)

It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
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« Reply #1232 on: January 02, 2021, 07:37:47 PM »
It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
So when are your phones being released?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1233 on: January 02, 2021, 07:42:31 PM »
So when are your phones being released?

Soon. Need to fix issue with Verizon MMS.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1234 on: January 02, 2021, 07:44:21 PM »
Soon. Need to fix issue with Verizon MMS.
Waiting patiently. Keep us posted.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1235 on: January 02, 2021, 08:22:50 PM »
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)

Hi, how did you find all available bands?

FCC  lists only

4GL TE/VoL TE/Vi LTE
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS Band 2/4/5
CDMA: BCD/ BC1 / BC10
LTE: 2/4/5/12/13/17/25/ 26

https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/2ALZM-SC3218/4509112.pdf

I know that FCC certification does not cover non-US bands but how did you find all of them?

I am asking because I would like to send this phone to my father in law in Israel where US bands are irrelevant.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1236 on: January 02, 2021, 11:53:57 PM »
Hi, how did you find all available bands?

FCC  lists only

4GL TE/VoL TE/Vi LTE
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS Band 2/4/5
CDMA: BCD/ BC1 / BC10
LTE: 2/4/5/12/13/17/25/ 26

https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/2ALZM-SC3218/4509112.pdf

I know that FCC certification does not cover non-US bands but how did you find all of them?

I am asking because I would like to send this phone to my father in law in Israel where US bands are irrelevant.


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The FCC info you provided is from the Schok Classic Flip https://www.schokgear.com, Not from the LG Wine 2.

However, you can find all the band's maintained above in the phone itself.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1237 on: January 03, 2021, 12:09:28 AM »
It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
The LG Folder 2 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.349839) is the Korean version of the LG Wine 2 (USC) / LG Classic Flip (TF).
Same as the LG Folder 1 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.323079) was the Korean version of the LG Exalt LTE.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1238 on: January 03, 2021, 12:55:23 PM »
The LG Folder 2 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.349839) is the Korean version of the LG Wine 2 (USC) / LG Classic Flip (TF).
Same as the LG Folder 1 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.323079) was the Korean version of the LG Exalt LTE.

Correct. I was using the folder 2 back when it came out for my testing.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1239 on: January 03, 2021, 03:39:12 PM »
The FCC info you provided is from the Schok Classic Flip https://www.schokgear.com, Not from the LG Wine 2.

However, you can find all the band's maintained above in the phone itself.

Thank you! But now I have another question: where can I find unlocked LG Wine 2? Tracfone's phones are not unlockable unless you are Tracfone's customer. Also, does unlocked LG Wine 2 support VoLTE of T-Mobile and Verizon?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1240 on: January 03, 2021, 07:34:24 PM »
Anyone know how i can get my hands on a folder 1 for a reasonable price (if it is possible to get at all)? I have been looking for a decent phone at a good price for a while, and have come out almost emptyhanded.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1241 on: January 03, 2021, 10:13:34 PM »
OK whatever it is, for the simplicity of the forum can we just stick to the USA names only please. Thank you  :)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1242 on: January 04, 2021, 12:13:18 AM »
Anyone know how i can get my hands on a folder 1 for a reasonable price (if it is possible to get at all)? I have been looking for a decent phone at a good price for a while, and have come out almost emptyhanded.
OK whatever it is, for the simplicity of the forum can we just stick to the USA names only please. Thank you  :)
And if someone needs info on a non-USA 'Folder 1', how should he name it?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1243 on: January 04, 2021, 09:39:39 AM »
And if someone needs info on a non-USA 'Folder 1', how should he name it?
Exactly that. But lets stop calling the LG Classic the "LG folder 2" 'because thats what its really called in Korea"

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1244 on: January 04, 2021, 11:32:50 AM »
Exactly that. But lets stop calling the LG Classic the "LG folder 2" 'because thats what its really called in Korea"
you are incorrect. The whole international market calls it that, including india and soon to be europe.
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