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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1340 on: January 27, 2021, 11:25:25 AM »
Why throw this under the bus before its even out to try.

Stay in your lane
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1341 on: January 27, 2021, 11:26:20 AM »
It seems that it's coming to Verizon: https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/device-showcase/device/10286

Its not coming to verizon its just a verizon approved handset just like the Schok.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1342 on: January 27, 2021, 11:27:45 AM »
Because it’s a competitor to his solution.

I think I have worked on phones longer then you have to know what's good and what is not good... stay in your lane. Whats even more funny is this device has been trying to get FCC approval since 2019.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1343 on: January 27, 2021, 11:59:33 AM »
I think I have worked on phones longer then you have to know what's good and what is not good... stay in your lane. Whats even more funny is this device has been trying to get FCC approval since 2019.

Sorry, but I don’t need to know anything about phones to see your bias, sir.
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« Reply #1344 on: January 27, 2021, 12:04:12 PM »
Sorry, but I don’t need to know anything about phones to see your bias, sir.

lol ok...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1345 on: January 27, 2021, 12:19:00 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1346 on: January 27, 2021, 12:47:55 PM »
Why throw this under the bus before its even out to try.

He explained why in his post. He thinks the CPU is trash.
Seems like the only throwing under the bus is what the mob is doing to him.
True he is a competitor, doesn't mean the point he is making is invalid.
Debate him on the merit of his argument and not on a accused bias.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1347 on: January 27, 2021, 07:02:36 PM »
1st I welcome competition, MANY here don't even know me but I have been building 99% of the kosher software for the last 10 years. Competition is important because it will allow OTHER manufacturers to keep producing flip phones. What many do not understand is that the community is so large and diverse that customers want to CUSTOMIZE the filter that's on the phone.

For instance this is what makes my LG CLASSIC filter BETTER then gentech, you can fully customize the filter ANYWAY you want. The LG is not my 1st phone. I am the one who built the very 1st Cadence filter for Approved link that was used by a figure I wont share. My solutions to the community sometimes go unappreciated which is not fair but that's ok! I run a business and I like to take feedback and continue to improve my products. I welcome competition because without it innovation STOPS! btw that phone is a pos with a pos OS and a processor that is even worse.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1348 on: January 27, 2021, 07:10:17 PM »
Climb on a chair, instead helping others into pits...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1350 on: January 27, 2021, 07:44:14 PM »
And I thought popcorn was for Fridays 🤷‍♂️
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1351 on: January 27, 2021, 11:53:33 PM »
Coming Soon!!

https://sunbeamwireless.com/
WOW! how did you find that? there is not 1 news site even reporting on it...

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WOW! how did you find that? there is not 1 news site even reporting on it...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1353 on: January 28, 2021, 07:26:21 PM »
it might be only option if you want 4G, Tello and TAG filter
can tag jasher the alcatel sold by tello, i tried meshimer and they cant ?

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« Reply #1354 on: January 28, 2021, 07:27:31 PM »
anyone know if the schok flip phone is a decent phone or talk and text ?
and is it compatible for tello ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1355 on: January 28, 2021, 10:14:32 PM »
anyone know if the schok flip phone is a decent phone or talk and text ?
and is it compatible for tello ?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1356 on: January 28, 2021, 10:18:36 PM »
anyone know if the schok flip phone is a decent phone or talk and text ?
and is it compatible for tello ?
Nice phone. Huge buttons. Really hard to get the battery cover off the back (to put the sim in and access the micro sd slot)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1357 on: January 29, 2021, 03:39:58 AM »
Nice phone. Huge buttons. Really hard to get the battery cover off the back (to put the sim in and access the micro sd slot)
That's a good thing, keeps the battery in. Unlike the other flip phones out there that sends the battery and cover flying 35ft when it's dropped.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1358 on: January 29, 2021, 06:42:35 AM »
can i have a smartphone and flip with the same number and have all calls and texts show up on both?
i know there are call fwd and text fwding apps, but dont know if any would be compatible with any type of flip phone

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1359 on: January 29, 2021, 11:07:22 AM »
That's a good thing, keeps the battery in. Unlike the other flip phones out there that sends the battery and cover flying 35ft when it's dropped.
But it still shouldn't feel like its cracking (or ACTUALLY crack like in my case)  just from trying to get it off (and not too nice to fingernails...)