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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1420 on: April 05, 2021, 11:19:57 PM »
Did you try updating the software?
Yes I contacted them multiple times they sent me videos but nothing worked
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« Reply #1421 on: April 05, 2021, 11:20:55 PM »
Did you try updating the software?
You tried entering a zip and you were able to continue?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1422 on: April 06, 2021, 10:15:10 AM »
Michael Kay bringing back the flip phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1423 on: April 06, 2021, 04:15:59 PM »
I just got the sonim xp3, had to go to the sprint tmobile store for the sim but they had the sim (as opposed to the alcatel which they had to special order the sim). So far seems to work well, importing contacts was very easy, and the t9 keyboard is very good and predictive. So far so good

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1424 on: April 07, 2021, 07:23:16 PM »
Has anyone tried any of these Nokia phones? I've been seeing them around recently, and they seem to be a little cheaper. I'm looking for a cheap phone for my brother, his alcatel stinks. I need at&t network. Willing to hear any ideas for cheap phones. Needs to be 4g.

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« Reply #1425 on: April 08, 2021, 02:57:37 PM »
Anyone here using the UN220 with T-Mobile?
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Unlocking sonim XP3
« Reply #1426 on: April 08, 2021, 04:47:41 PM »
Can a  sonim XP3 from Sprint  unlock to Tmobile

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Re: Unlocking sonim XP3
« Reply #1427 on: April 08, 2021, 05:56:30 PM »
Can a  sonim XP3 from Sprint  unlock to Tmobile
They are the same company now i dont think you need to unlock it. i just got a sprint xp3 from ebay, went into the tmobile store and they gave me a sim, i cant imagine youll have any trouble

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1428 on: April 09, 2021, 01:11:12 AM »
They are the same company now i dont think you need to unlock it. i just got a sprint xp3 from ebay, went into the tmobile store and they gave me a sim, i cant imagine youll have any trouble
Tmobile out sprint sim? They look different

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1429 on: April 09, 2021, 12:54:31 PM »
Does anyone have a recommendation for a flip phone that I can set a whitelist of numbers (either on the handset level or on the network/provider level) that only permits incoming and outgoing calls to numbers on the whitelist?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1430 on: April 09, 2021, 01:03:41 PM »
Tmobile out sprint sim? They look different
I didnt really pay attention when they gave me the sim, all i know is that the t-mobile store gave the sim card and it works in my sprint phone. I can take it out and look at it if you want, im not sure what to look for though.
I guess its possible that they gave me a sprint sim and they only give out sprint sims to customers who came over with the sprint merer, so if you are originally a t-mobile customer it wont work, but i think thats unlikely. (Im sure you know this, but, you can just buy one and return it if it doesnt work out)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1431 on: April 09, 2021, 03:13:24 PM »
I didnt really pay attention when they gave me the sim, all i know is that the t-mobile store gave the sim card and it works in my sprint phone. I can take it out and look at it if you want, im not sure what to look for though.
I guess its possible that they gave me a sprint sim and they only give out sprint sims to customers who came over with the sprint merer, so if you are originally a t-mobile customer it wont work, but i think thats unlikely. (Im sure you know this, but, you can just buy one and return it if it doesnt work out)
I've seen purple lettering on tmobile sims, not on sprint sims

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1432 on: April 09, 2021, 03:16:40 PM »
I've seen purple lettering on tmobile sims, not on sprint sims
I just looked at it, says sprint on it. I guess its possible they only give them to sprint customers. But to the best of my knowledge all sprint towers are integrated with t-mobile towers and you have the same reception.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1433 on: April 09, 2021, 03:22:09 PM »
I just looked at it, says sprint on it. I guess its possible they only give them to sprint customers. But to the best of my knowledge all sprint towers are integrated with t-mobile towers and you have the same reception.
I  spoke to a eep in one of the stores,
Practically it's a matter of which bands the phone has, and which bands sprint and tmobile towers are on,
He made it sound like you won't pull service from either tower from one phone at the moment

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1434 on: April 09, 2021, 03:32:02 PM »
I  spoke to a eep in one of the stores,
Practically it's a matter of which bands the phone has, and which bands sprint and tmobile towers are on,
He made it sound like you won't pull service from either tower from one phone at the moment
Not sure i fully understand, the bands on the xp3 are only carried by sprint towers or they are carried by some sprint towers and some tmobile towers but not all towers from either carrier.

On a side note i have noticed a glitch with the external screen that it doesnt update. For example if you and a call with "x" and you end the call the screen will still say ongoing call. Another example if you end a call with "x" and receive a call from "y" it will still show "x". (I did play around with the phone a bit so it could be my fault but i dont think it is)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1435 on: April 11, 2021, 09:02:47 PM »
Isn't that only possible with a smartphone - which presumably a good Bachur wouldn't have anyway?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1436 on: April 11, 2021, 09:04:16 PM »
Not sure i fully understand, the bands on the xp3 are only carried by sprint towers or they are carried by some sprint towers and some tmobile towers but not all towers from either carrier.

On a side note i have noticed a glitch with the external screen that it doesnt update. For example if you and a call with "x" and you end the call the screen will still say ongoing call. Another example if you end a call with "x" and receive a call from "y" it will still show "x". (I did play around with the phone a bit so it could be my fault but i dont think it is)
Update the software and you probably wont have that problem anymore.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1437 on: April 11, 2021, 09:07:16 PM »
Does anyone have a recommendation for a flip phone that I can set a whitelist of numbers (either on the handset level or on the network/provider level) that only permits incoming and outgoing calls to numbers on the whitelist?
Sonim XP3 can do that. Just remember that your probably gonna have to update the software of the phones.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1438 on: April 11, 2021, 09:08:40 PM »
I ordered the sonim XP3 it should be coming tomorrow. Do i need a sim, until now i have never used a sim card because sprint basic phones never had, (except for my 1 week tryout with the alcatel,) even in phones that had a sim slot it wasnt necessary. If I need a sim can i get it in store or do i need to order it?
you need a sim.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1439 on: April 11, 2021, 09:12:17 PM »
BTW Anyone looking for a Verizon flip kosher or talk and text? I just finished the Alcatel Go Flip V for verizon. Tag locations can flash it kosher for you. I built that software as well.
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