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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1440 on: April 11, 2021, 09:33:48 PM »
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« Reply #1441 on: April 11, 2021, 09:45:57 PM »
@ChapsTheMatzav if youre gonna respond to every post made upthread, hurry it up and tell us what you think of this one
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« Reply #1442 on: April 11, 2021, 10:16:21 PM »
@ChapsTheMatzav if youre gonna respond to every post made upthread, hurry it up and tell us what you think of this one
I'm not quite sure he Chaps the Matzav... 1 step forward and 3 steps behind.. ???
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« Reply #1443 on: April 12, 2021, 09:35:29 AM »
I'm not quite sure he Chaps the Matzav... 1 step forward and 3 steps behind.. ???
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I really hope he isnt an old competitor trying to pick a fight....
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1444 on: April 12, 2021, 09:38:21 AM »
Anyone here using the UN220 with T-Mobile?
Not the best... Volte didint really work but if you get a tech to register the IMEI it should work. Prob still better than alternitives: Alcatel is
That phone is junk.
Kyocera has less compatible bands. Used the Schock with Volte but it has its own issues...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1445 on: April 12, 2021, 11:54:26 AM »
What carrier is the UN220 good for. It seems to be just about the only good GSM 4G phone, yet everyone is seeming to say it’s not good with a lot of the GSM carriers. Is there something I’m missing?

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« Reply #1446 on: April 12, 2021, 05:54:26 PM »
Can an unlocked Alcatel Smartflip work in Israel with an Israeli SIM card?

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« Reply #1447 on: April 12, 2021, 07:35:31 PM »
What carrier is the UN220 good for. It seems to be just about the only good GSM 4G phone, yet everyone is seeming to say it’s not good with a lot of the GSM carriers. Is there something I’m missing?
Phone call doesn't work on the 4g network.
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« Reply #1448 on: April 12, 2021, 07:36:07 PM »
Not the best... Volte didint really work but if you get a tech to register the IMEI it should work. Prob still better than alternitives: Alcatel is Kyocera has less compatible bands. Used the Schock with Volte but it has its own issues...
Phone works great on the 2g band.
 But question is why can't I get it to work on the 4g band?
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What carrier is the UN220 good for. It seems to be just about the only good GSM 4G phone, yet everyone is seeming to say it’s not good with a lot of the GSM carriers. Is there something I’m missing?
Give a quick read here...
https://forums.apps4flip.com/d/106-issues-with-the-unlocked-lg-wine2-not-working-properly-on-t-mobile

Not the best... Volte didint really work but if you get a tech to register the IMEI it should work. Prob still better than alternitives: Alcatel is Kyocera has less compatible bands. Used the Schock with Volte but it has its own issues...
Interesting that it doesn't work. I see two bands that are supported.

https://forums.apps4flip.com/d/106-issues-with-the-unlocked-lg-wine2-not-working-properly-on-t-mobile
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1450 on: April 13, 2021, 12:02:35 AM »
Has anyone tried the Un220 on the At&t network? I just bought one a few days ago, I havent recieved it yet. Anyone have any experience?

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« Reply #1451 on: April 13, 2021, 12:30:47 AM »
Has anyone tried the Un220 on the At&t network? I just bought one a few days ago, I havent recieved it yet. Anyone have any experience?
Yup currently my brother and i use it as our personal phones

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« Reply #1452 on: April 13, 2021, 03:07:38 AM »
Yup currently my brother and i use it as our personal phones
And it works good? 4g lte for everything?
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« Reply #1453 on: April 21, 2021, 05:24:04 PM »
I'm not quite sure he Chaps the Matzav... 1 step forward and 3 steps behind.. ???
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« Reply #1455 on: April 22, 2021, 01:20:38 PM »
Has anyone tried the Un220 on the At&t network? I just bought one a few days ago, I havent recieved it yet. Anyone have any experience?
Yup currently my brother and i use it as our personal phones
And it works good? 4g lte for everything?
Just got my UN220 last night. :)
The phone functions great. Its a very good phone, the performance is pretty good in my opinion. Just trying to figure out why i'm only getting 3g service :( I have Good2go mobile on At&t network

@elazarmn if you could help with your experience, much appreciated.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1456 on: April 22, 2021, 03:33:31 PM »
Just got my UN220 last night. :)
The phone functions great. Its a very good phone, the performance is pretty good in my opinion. Just trying to figure out why i'm only getting 3g service :( I have Good2go mobile on At&t network

@elazarmn if you could help with your experience, much appreciated.





Honestly have no clue, when i got mine it was brand new and got LTE right away. My brother got a very good used one and he only gets 3g also but doesn’t mind since he doesn’t have access to internet and hasn’t affected his service

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1457 on: April 23, 2021, 04:51:13 PM »
Just got my UN220 last night. :)
The phone functions great. Its a very good phone, the performance is pretty good in my opinion. Just trying to figure out why i'm only getting 3g service :( I have Good2go mobile on At&t network

@elazarmn if you could help with your experience, much appreciated.


You probably need to adjust the APN settings to your carrier.
See here for Good2go APN settings: https://bestmvno.com/apn-settings/good-2go-mobile-apn-settings/

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1458 on: April 25, 2021, 06:18:03 PM »
You probably need to adjust the APN settings to your carrier.
See here for Good2go APN settings: https://bestmvno.com/apn-settings/good-2go-mobile-apn-settings/

Thank you. I just followed the steps in the link you posted and now i have 4g.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1459 on: April 26, 2021, 09:25:15 PM »
Thank you. I just followed the steps in the link you posted and now i have 4g.

I'm glad it worked.