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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1500 on: May 21, 2021, 04:24:10 PM »
3g or 4g?
If you go with 3g then you can just get some unlocked old phone from eBay for cheap.
If you go with 4g and you really don’t care about the phone you can get a cheap go flip for a few bucks but fair warning it really will be a piece of garbage.
Is 3g good enough for a phone call?
If yes then 3g is enough.
Which cheap phone is kosher?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1501 on: May 21, 2021, 07:50:57 PM »
Is 3g good enough for a phone call?
If yes then 3g is enough.
Which cheap phone is kosher?
I believe so but but curious if others feel the same? I haven’t had 3g in a few years but my brother currently has 3g in queens and it’s working fine for him.

The important thing is to check that there is 3g coverage in your area. I switched out of 3g because somewhere I constantly flew to didn’t have 3g sprint service so I had no service whenever I went there (was using Tello at the time).

In terms of kosher I personally feel that a 3g phone is already kosher, especially if you don’t have data. 3g phones can’t connect to Wifi and don’t have functional browsers. (When I say kosher I’m referring to internet capabilities)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1502 on: May 22, 2021, 09:20:35 PM »
Don't bother with a 3g phone now because most providers wont activate it as they are phasing it out now..... If you just need voice calls and you don't care about horrible, slow, pull-your-hair-out phone then grab an unlocked alcaltel or similar on ebay (+filter prob $30) and try hellomobile.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1503 on: May 22, 2021, 10:28:34 PM »
I guess the question is if with hello mobile 3g is enough, if it isn't then the cheapest non internet / wifi 4g phone.

Any link / example would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1504 on: May 23, 2021, 04:00:01 PM »
I guess the question is if with hello mobile 3g is enough, if it isn't then the cheapest non internet / wifi 4g phone.

Any link / example would be greatly appreciated.
Which decent phone has 3g capabilities with Tmobile?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1505 on: May 24, 2021, 08:35:12 PM »
First find out if you will really be able to activate it before working on that...

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« Reply #1506 on: May 25, 2021, 12:37:50 AM »
Has anyone seen this website? I stumbled across it today, it seems to have some good apps . Not sure how compatible they are.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1507 on: May 25, 2021, 02:24:04 AM »
Which decent phone has 3g capabilities with Tmobile?
Precisely my question.

First find out if you will really be able to activate it before working on that...
Are you replying to me?
Can you share a link to a cheap 4g one?
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« Reply #1508 on: May 25, 2021, 02:24:59 AM »
Has anyone seen this website? I stumbled across it today, it seems to have some good apps . Not sure how compatible they are.
Been around..
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« Reply #1509 on: May 25, 2021, 09:10:37 PM »
Has anyone seen this website? I stumbled across it today, it seems to have some good apps . Not sure how compatible they are.
Yes. I've used some of their apps for my XP3, the banking apps didn't work altogether. (Tried on my friends UN200, still didn't work)
Which phone do you have?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1510 on: May 27, 2021, 12:11:47 AM »
Are you replying to me?
Can you share a link to a cheap 4g one?
There is no "non-internet" 4g phone. you have to filter it. Summarize what you need please because I am getting lost....

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« Reply #1511 on: May 27, 2021, 12:15:48 AM »
There is no "non-internet" 4g phone. you have to filter it. Summarize what you need please because I am getting lost....
Thank you!
I'm looking for the cheapest non internet phone with the cheapest plan I can get (with unlimited talk and text). So far it seems the cheapest sim is hellomobile at $5 monthly, now I'm looking for the cheapest compatible phone.
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« Reply #1512 on: May 29, 2021, 09:35:03 PM »
Thank you!
I'm looking for the cheapest non internet phone with the cheapest plan I can get (with unlimited talk and text). So far it seems the cheapest sim is hellomobile at $5 monthly, now I'm looking for the cheapest compatible phone.
Sorry but there is no cheap non-internet phone. Do you want cheap and you will filter (40$) https://www.ebay.com/itm/284299911334

 or more expensive without a browser https://sunbeamwireless.com/shop/ ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1513 on: May 30, 2021, 12:06:42 AM »
does sprint have any flip phone that can be Koshered?

Isn’t Sprint a dying network? Aren’t they moving everyone to T-mobile and sunsetting CMDA?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1514 on: May 30, 2021, 01:19:09 AM »
Sorry but there is no cheap non-internet phone. Do you want cheap and you will filter (40$) https://www.ebay.com/itm/284299911334

 or more expensive without a browser https://sunbeamwireless.com/shop/ ?
I know someone that rooted his go flip 2 to kasher it himself and said it worked fine. He also said he was having trouble doing the same to the 3. Either way it’s probably the type of thing @Yo ssi could figure out how to do ;)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1516 on: May 30, 2021, 01:43:57 PM »
@Jojo202 what about this one?
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07MJHLH72/
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« Reply #1517 on: May 30, 2021, 07:22:01 PM »
Yes. I've used some of their apps for my XP3, the banking apps didn't work altogether. (Tried on my friends UN200, still didn't work)
Which phone do you have?
@myi can you get your hands on one of these to test it on T-mobile? ;)

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« Reply #1518 on: May 30, 2021, 07:34:41 PM »
@myi can you get your hands on one of these to test it on T-mobile? ;)
I'm still trying. Didn't give up as of yet.

 Have three different ones. Let's hope one of them works. Lol
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1519 on: May 30, 2021, 08:16:03 PM »
I almost want to change the name of this chat to "death of the flip phone". The landscape it just getting more inconvenient and hard to navigate,,,