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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1520 on: June 01, 2021, 03:51:33 PM »
Has Gmail/email setup on Kyocera duraxv been discussed here ? Can someone help

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1521 on: June 01, 2021, 04:11:06 PM »
Thank you!
I'm looking for the cheapest non internet phone with the cheapest plan I can get (with unlimited talk and text). So far it seems the cheapest sim is hellomobile at $5 monthly, now I'm looking for the cheapest compatible phone.
Seems to me the math plays out like this:

Using @myi ‘s shtick with tracphone:

$20 for the LG classic and kasher yourself with gentech or ADB
$15 for each of the first two months of serivce
Next four months of service free
$15 for each of the remaining six months

Total cost for the year= $140 and an unlocked LG classic (prob worth over $100)

Using Hello Mobile:

$60 for a year of service
$40-60 for an unlocked phone
Another $30-50 to kasher

Total cost for the year: $140+
(And a piece of unlocked trash)

In other words they seem to come out to pretty similar prices depending on what unlocked phone you would get and how you would kasher it.

The only thing that would change this, is if you can kasher the Alcatel or whatever other phone you would get on your own

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1522 on: June 01, 2021, 04:17:48 PM »
Seems to me the math plays out like this:

Using @myi ‘s shtick with tracphone:

$20 for the LG classic and kasher yourself with gentech or ADB
$15 for each of the first two months of serivce
Next four months of service free
$15 for each of the remaining six months

Total cost for the year= $140 and an unlocked LG classic (prob worth over $100)

Using Hello Mobile:

$60 for a year of service
$40-60 for an unlocked phone
Another $30-50 to kasher

Total cost for the year: $140+
(And a piece of unlocked trash)

In other words they seem to come out to pretty similar prices depending on what unlocked phone you would get and how you would kasher it.

The only thing that would change this, is if you can kasher the Alcatel or whatever other phone you would get on your own
Just to correct you it's $20 a month after the 1st two for the $5 autopay discount, though I'm not sure of you can cancel the autopay and renew again at 5$ off.
 As I haven't been paying with my free points.

If I can get the LG wine two or the un220 to work with T-Mobile that's a deal breaker.

 I know Wing had AT&t service for $12 which I had activated last Summer for two of my siblings when they needed phone service for upstate NY.
  If that's still available that might work with the un220.

I'm going to try to find someone with a AT&t device and try it in that phone to see if it works.

 The best bet is like you said probably pay $30 for 6 months of service. Then look on eBay for a yearly plan from TracFone.

 So $30 first two months
A referral code for 8,000k points which gets your 4 months free.
 So 6 months for $30. And Amy Verizon phone you like.

 Yes when it comes to flip phones Verizon takes the Cake, from the Kyocera cadence to the LG Exalt and to the cheaper and the LG classic flip.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1523 on: June 01, 2021, 07:13:31 PM »
Been looking around what exactly is Wing?

Also found a few assortment of relatively normally priced non smartphones::
https://www.wingalpha.com/shop?brands=Alcatel,Coolpad,Google,Kyocera,NUU&types=Android+Phones,Basic+Phones

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« Reply #1524 on: June 01, 2021, 07:50:15 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1525 on: June 01, 2021, 09:31:44 PM »
Just to correct you it's $20 a month after the 1st two for the $5 autopay discount, though I'm not sure of you can cancel the autopay and renew again at 5$ off.
 As I haven't been paying with my free points.

Can you please explain this I’m not sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that when you switch back to auto pay the first month isn’t discounted and only the coming months after that?

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« Reply #1526 on: June 01, 2021, 09:41:31 PM »
Thank you @TzviR
The like button exists for a reason  ;) ;D

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1527 on: June 01, 2021, 10:20:07 PM »
Been looking around what exactly is Wing?

Also found a few assortment of relatively normally priced non smartphones::
https://www.wingalpha.com/shop?brands=Alcatel,Coolpad,Google,Kyocera,NUU&types=Android+Phones,Basic+Phones
Wing is a MVNO that runs on either of the big three.
Yes they are fairly priced but they are terrible...

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« Reply #1528 on: June 01, 2021, 10:42:14 PM »
The like button exists for a reason  ;) ;D
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« Reply #1529 on: June 01, 2021, 11:10:56 PM »
Like when I'm in a good mood?
Nah it’s there for when you’re lazy, much easier than writing a reply  ;)

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« Reply #1530 on: June 03, 2021, 05:20:49 AM »
Can you please explain this I’m not sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that when you switch back to auto pay the first month isn’t discounted and only the coming months after that?
When signing up for autopay the first of the two months will be discounted $5 to make the bill only $15 instead of the usual $20.

 Now I was thinking out loud should you cancel the autopay after the 2nd month and then re-add the autopay would it trigger the savings again of $5 off as it's a bonus for those who subscribe to autopay.
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« Reply #1531 on: June 03, 2021, 10:23:29 AM »
When signing up for autopay the first of the two months will be discounted $5 to make the bill only $15 instead of the usual $20.

 Now I was thinking out loud should you cancel the autopay after the 2nd month and then re-add the autopay would it trigger the savings again of $5 off as it's a bonus for those who subscribe to autopay.
So you’re suggesting that it’s possible you won’t get the discount for the remaining 6 months?

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« Reply #1532 on: June 03, 2021, 11:44:56 AM »
So you’re suggesting that it’s possible you won’t get the discount for the remaining 6 months?
Correct you only get the $15 pricing for the first 2 months with auto pay.
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« Reply #1533 on: June 03, 2021, 11:48:48 AM »
Correct you only get the $15 pricing for the first 2 months with auto pay.
Oh, that’s definitely a deal breaker for me. At what point would you be eligible to subscribe to auto pay and get the discount again?

As well, what if you just buy the plan from Amazon? The GC promotion is over but I believe it still offers for $15 a month

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« Reply #1534 on: June 03, 2021, 11:51:08 AM »
Correct you only get the $15 pricing for the first 2 months with auto pay.
can you not use auto pay for the first 2 months and then still be eligible for the last 6 months? That would make it not quite as bad

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« Reply #1535 on: June 03, 2021, 12:25:24 PM »
can you not use auto pay for the first 2 months and then still be eligible for the last 6 months? That would make it not quite as bad
Read what I wrote up thread.

 Even Amazon is only $15 the first month then $20 for the remainder...

 TracFone is $15 for the first 2 months. Then 4 free, so 6 months for $30 and then you decide what you want to do... Buy a plan from ebay for the year, or mobi if you want Verizon for $10 a month...
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« Reply #1536 on: June 03, 2021, 12:26:35 PM »
How are you getting 4 months free? Rewards?
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« Reply #1537 on: June 03, 2021, 01:19:10 PM »

or mobi if you want Verizon for $10 a month...
Phone will still be locked though, no?

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« Reply #1538 on: June 03, 2021, 01:20:32 PM »
How are you getting 4 months free? Rewards?
Yes, if you use @myi ’s referral code you can get 8000 points worth 4 free months of service

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« Reply #1539 on: June 03, 2021, 01:23:31 PM »
Yes, if you use @myi ’s referral code you can get 8000 points worth 4 free months of service
Got it. I already have a rewards account but have not yet been able to redeem any points. Doesn't work when I try :(
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