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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1640 on: August 21, 2021, 11:11:20 PM »
Does anyone know a way how to unlock the lg wine 2 from us cellular?
@Slefk2  Though I have one as well which I don't mind to have unlocked if you figure it out.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1641 on: August 26, 2021, 07:55:28 PM »
I'm looking for a dumb phone. (no internet)

I've been recommended Tello for service. Any recommended phones?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1642 on: August 26, 2021, 09:08:05 PM »
I'm looking for a dumb phone. (no internet)

I've been recommended Tello for service. Any recommended phones?
Somehow I missed it when I looked before I posted, but ust in case anybody else happens to be interested, this was recently discussed upthread starting here: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=65907.msg2477926#msg2477926

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1643 on: August 30, 2021, 04:37:38 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184265971908

Anybody know if these Kosher Phones allow SMS? or does "talk only" really mean talk only?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1644 on: August 30, 2021, 07:37:21 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184265971908

Anybody know if these Kosher Phones allow SMS? or does "talk only" really mean talk only?
they sell it in different variations. that one is talk only. you can message the seller if you want another variation. Its not a great phone though... or even decent. the best choice for GSM is the Sunbeam

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1645 on: August 30, 2021, 10:15:19 PM »
they sell it in different variations. that one is talk only. you can message the seller if you want another variation. Its not a great phone though... or even decent. the best choice for GSM is the Sunbeam
Yeah but its expensive....

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1646 on: August 30, 2021, 11:54:09 PM »
Is the Nokia 6300 a good phone? How does it compare to the LG VN220? I'd expect a great product from a major brand.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1647 on: August 31, 2021, 12:42:36 AM »
Is the Nokia 6300 a good phone? How does it compare to the LG VN220? I'd expect a great product from a major brand.
Mixed amazon reviews. Sorry but they are not a major brand. at least not in the USA. Standard Kai OS junk. Seems a bit sluggish and reverts back to abc with every new message.  Many people reported issues with the alarms and other basic features. definitely not up to the standards of the Lg exalt.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1648 on: September 13, 2021, 07:35:54 PM »
Sonim is coming out with a new rugged flip phone called Sonim xp3Plus
its a upgraded version of the xp3 it only works with T-mobile now but it will be available on all carriers later in the winter

https://www.sonimtech.com/xp3plus/

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1649 on: September 13, 2021, 08:54:18 PM »
Sonim is coming out with a new rugged flip phone called Sonim xp3Plus
its a upgraded version of the xp3 it only works with T-mobile now but it will be available on all carriers later in the winter

https://www.sonimtech.com/xp3plus/

 >:( Cant they just make the same phone in a normal form factor? like not the size and weight of a brick!?!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1650 on: September 17, 2021, 03:05:54 PM »
just got a message today from tello that I need to migrate to the new GSM network and get a compatible device by October 31. any way to get a kosher(talk & text) device for cheap?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1651 on: September 17, 2021, 03:11:48 PM »
just got a message today from tello that I need to migrate to the new GSM network and get a compatible device by October 31. any way to get a kosher(talk & text) device for cheap?
will the alcatel 4044t be a good option? can TAG kasher it?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1652 on: September 18, 2021, 10:07:22 PM »
will the alcatel 4044t be a good option? can TAG kasher it?
The Alcatel is very slow.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1653 on: September 18, 2021, 11:50:17 PM »
The Alcatel is very slow.
For calls and text?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1654 on: September 19, 2021, 12:08:20 AM »
For calls and text?
It’s a slow and buggy phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1655 on: September 19, 2021, 12:27:13 AM »
Tmobile has two new phones: the Sonim xp3plus which looks like it has a lot of buttons and is easy to mod and the Cat s22 which has a touchscreen.
Are they any good?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1656 on: September 19, 2021, 12:27:57 AM »
Tmobile has two new phones: the Sonim xp3plus which looks like it has a lot of buttons and is easy to mod and the Cat s22 which has a touchscreen.
Are they any good?
The old XP3 was amazing. I’d assume that this one would be better.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1657 on: September 19, 2021, 01:35:15 AM »
The old XP3 was amazing. I’d assume that this one would be better.
With flip phones the newer they get the worse they get....

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1658 on: September 19, 2021, 10:33:14 AM »
will the alcatel 4044t be a good option? can TAG kasher it?
is sonim xp3 be a good phone?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1659 on: September 19, 2021, 04:02:24 PM »
is sonim xp3 be a good phone?
Yes, just a little bulky.