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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1700 on: October 03, 2021, 02:23:25 PM »
is there a monthly fee after tag kashers it for the filter?
LG Classic? no, it's a one-time fee to tag.
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« Reply #1701 on: October 03, 2021, 02:24:38 PM »
LG Classic? no, it's a one-time fee to tag.
what do they charge? didn't they use to be free?

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« Reply #1702 on: October 03, 2021, 02:25:33 PM »
what do they charge? didn't they use to be free?
I did it about a year ago, think it was $25
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1703 on: October 03, 2021, 02:26:06 PM »
what do they charge? didn't they use to be free?
I believe there still is a free filter online.

https://oldsite.gentechsolution.com/filterlg

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1704 on: October 04, 2021, 10:39:56 AM »
Does anyone know how to get the LG Classic internationally unlocked?
Look on ebay, bought many of them there.
 Sibling used one this past year, said it worked great.

how is tracfone service for talk and text only?
Amazing, Works great.  Never had an issue.
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is there a monthly fee after tag kashers it for the filter?
you can install the same filter for free on your end with a computer.
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« Reply #1705 on: October 04, 2021, 10:51:06 AM »
So anyone try the new Tmobile Alcotel Go flip 4? Kios 3.0 anything better? Or same slow phone?

 Yes I saw they made it with the USB C and no more apps on the home screen. There was a you tube unboxing
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« Reply #1706 on: October 04, 2021, 10:54:23 AM »
you can install the same filter for free on your end with a computer.
I have the kosher cellution filter from tag. isn't free if you do it on your own either.
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« Reply #1707 on: October 04, 2021, 11:35:31 AM »
Look on ebay, bought many of them there.
 Sibling used one this past year, said it worked great.
 Amazing, Works great.  Never had an issue.
I put together a post...
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after 6 months long term will cost $20 a month. im paying $9 a month now on tello... is there any other options out there?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1708 on: October 04, 2021, 12:12:45 PM »
did anyone have any luck using the sonim xp3 phone on tello? it shows not compatible.

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« Reply #1709 on: October 04, 2021, 12:21:29 PM »
hellomobile
$5 per month unlimited talk n text inc tax
are they good in lakewood?

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« Reply #1710 on: October 04, 2021, 07:54:25 PM »
seems like this may be a good option for tello. https://www.ebay.com/itm/184265971908 I called them and they gave me an imei to check, which showed as compatible on the tello website, it just said to check that it isn't locked to any carrier which should be ok because its unlocked. is this the regular price? are there any local (Lakewood) stores that sell this?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1711 on: October 04, 2021, 09:11:22 PM »
seems like this may be a good option for tello. https://www.ebay.com/itm/184265971908 I called them and they gave me an imei to check, which showed as compatible on the tello website, it just said to check that it isn't locked to any carrier which should be ok because its unlocked. is this the regular price? are there any local (Lakewood) stores that sell this?
Its the regular alcatel junk. thats a very good price, because many TAG locations charge around $30 just to filter it. Note that the link you supplied is the talk only version. Not sure why you would do Tello over hellomobile, which is cheaper as they both offer the same network coverage

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« Reply #1712 on: October 04, 2021, 10:29:20 PM »
Its the regular alcatel junk. thats a very good price, because many TAG locations charge around $30 just to filter it. Note that the link you supplied is the talk only version. Not sure why you would do Tello over hellomobile, which is cheaper as they both offer the same network coverage
What’s junk about it? Calls and text are that complicated? Good point! I didn’t realize it’s only the talk version. Your right.. I may as well try hello mobile…

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« Reply #1713 on: October 04, 2021, 11:16:43 PM »
What’s junk about it? Calls and text are that complicated? Good point! I didn’t realize it’s only the talk version. Your right.. I may as well try hello mobile…
Slow to respond to key presses, contacts are a mess and the phone falls apart (literally) after a few months.
I have transferred  many of my customers to HelloMobile without any issues. (granted their customer service is terrible, but so is Verizons, and t-mobiles, and tracfone, and Att and.....

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« Reply #1714 on: October 04, 2021, 11:45:24 PM »
Slow to respond to key presses, contacts are a mess and the phone falls apart (literally) after a few months.
I have transferred  many of my customers to HelloMobile without any issues. (granted their customer service is terrible, but so is Verizons, and t-mobiles, and tracfone, and Att and.....
Any kosher phone you recommend for hello mobile?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1716 on: October 05, 2021, 08:21:09 PM »
The Sunbeam
 https://sunbeamwireless.com/product/sunbeam-f1-orchid/
$195 seems a little steep.. I'm not such a heavy phone user usually. here is the talk and text option https://www.ebay.com/itm/184784824410?epid=28015882129&hash=item2b0608a85a:g:5bAAAOSwBpteovO1
I'm thinking of risking it... unless its totally a waste and will completely break under moderate usage...

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« Reply #1717 on: October 06, 2021, 08:52:52 PM »
after 6 months long term will cost $20 a month. im paying $9 a month now on tello... is there any other options out there?
For someone who wants the Kyocera or an exact or the lg classic then using tracfone is a good idea.

Or for $10 a month on Verizon with mobi.com

Or wing for $12 With at&t and other carriers which would work with the Kyocera and or the un220.

Hello mobile, tello, red pocket. All use tmobile/Sprint.
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« Reply #1718 on: October 06, 2021, 09:10:25 PM »
$195 seems a little steep.. I'm not such a heavy phone user usually. here is the talk and text option https://www.ebay.com/itm/184784824410?epid=28015882129&hash=item2b0608a85a:g:5bAAAOSwBpteovO1
I'm thinking of risking it... unless its totally a waste and will completely break under moderate usage...
It’s extremely slow and buggy.

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« Reply #1719 on: October 15, 2021, 03:32:18 AM »
What phones are those who were on tello network under sprint using now that they merged with t-mobile's network. I'm hearing the end date for the sprint service on the 3g network phones is the 31st of October.

  What compatible phone with t-mobile is everyone switching to? Or scrapping the whole service and going elsewhere?

 Alcatel?
Nuu?
Coolpad Snap?
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