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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera Dura series
Can be kashered by tag

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE




Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1880 on: December 20, 2021, 07:36:14 AM »
I guess we can add this to the wiki. Though I'm curios if one of you guys can get the hot-spot to work as well.

  Works amazing with tmobile 4g network.

Kyocera E4810 DuraXV Extreme.
Is the phone itself working good? I used it with Verizon and it was a disaster, slow phone, I went back to the E4610

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1881 on: December 20, 2021, 03:32:35 PM »
Is the phone itself working good? I used it with Verizon and it was a disaster, slow phone, I went back to the E4610
Can you share a bit more? was it the whole phone slow or just the messaging? I am working on replacing the messaging app with message+

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1882 on: December 20, 2021, 08:16:44 PM »
Just did.
 Played around with this Kyocera flip phone.
 Worked perfectly for t-mobile.
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-E4810-DuraXV-Extreme-16GB-Verizon-Rugged-Cell-Phone-Very-Good-/383765195581?
 Though it needs to be unlocked. Or could be it comes already unlocked.
 If they're are not unlocked you can find a $5 unlock code on ebay.
It says Verizon on the phone.
Doesn't Verizon use CDMA and T-Mobile GSM, which would mean this phone wouldn't work with T-Mobile?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1883 on: December 20, 2021, 08:38:35 PM »
Can you share a bit more? was it the whole phone slow or just the messaging? I am working on replacing the messaging app with message+
message plus does not work (properly) on the 4810

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1884 on: December 20, 2021, 10:23:28 PM »
message plus does not work (properly) on the 4810
More details?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1885 on: December 20, 2021, 10:52:10 PM »
Does anyone know if the Alcatel Go flip 4051s will work with US Mobile on the Verizon network?

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« Reply #1886 on: December 20, 2021, 11:58:34 PM »
Can you share a bit more? was it the whole phone slow or just the messaging? I am working on replacing the messaging app with message+
It was quite a while ago, dont remember details just that it was really bad, I think mainly messages but it affected the whole phone

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« Reply #1887 on: December 25, 2021, 09:32:29 PM »
It says Verizon on the phone.
Doesn't Verizon use CDMA and T-Mobile GSM, which would mean this phone wouldn't work with T-Mobile?
I tried and can confirm it works. Many Verizon devices are unlocked which would work on the gsm network.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1888 on: December 26, 2021, 11:22:57 PM »
It was quite a while ago, dont remember details just that it was really bad, I think mainly messages but it affected the whole phone
I tried and can confirm it works. Many Verizon devices are unlocked which would work on the gsm network.

However, mobile hotspot does not work using T-Mobile on the Kyocera 4810.   Get error message "couldn't run a subscription check". Also Visible does not work on this phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1889 on: December 27, 2021, 12:48:00 AM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1893 on: December 27, 2021, 10:57:47 AM »
Reprogrammed this phone
https://youtu.be/Mv1fu0Ik7F8
TL;DR He says verizon doesn't work and at&t blocked him

Fig says it will work with Verizon/At&T and TMO my assumption is that it will work on Verizon 3g but not LTE

Still trying to figure if there are (3) devices and how they compare (F21s, F21 pro, F21 pro+)

ETA: pro+ supposedly has google play / services
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« Reply #1894 on: December 27, 2021, 02:23:10 PM »
https://youtu.be/Mv1fu0Ik7F8
TL;DR He says verizon doesn't work and at&t blocked him

Fig says it will work with Verizon/At&T and TMO my assumption is that it will work on Verizon 3g but not LTE

Still trying to figure if there are (3) devices and how they compare (F21s, F21 pro, F21 pro+)

ETA: pro+ supposedly has google play / services

It works on verizon Lte but only if verizon doesnt kick you off based on incompatible IMEI. Works fine with Verizon MVNOs. Tmobile, weak reception. good with AT&T. Overall good phone

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1895 on: December 27, 2021, 04:19:53 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1896 on: December 28, 2021, 01:16:00 AM »
Just came across this site. It allows you to filter by carrier and features.

https://josebriones.org/dumbphones/

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« Reply #1897 on: December 28, 2021, 01:48:59 PM »
Just came across this site. It allows you to filter by carrier and features.

https://josebriones.org/dumbphones/
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« Reply #1898 on: January 03, 2022, 03:45:18 AM »
Just came across this site. It allows you to filter by carrier and features.

https://josebriones.org/dumbphones/
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1899 on: January 10, 2022, 01:44:04 PM »
Just did.
 Played around with this Kyocera flip phone.
 Worked perfectly for t-mobile.
 You can use Tello or Hello Mobile on this phone for $5 unlimited talk and text.
 And can even get you a referral vote should you decide to switch to these services.

 I tested the text, picture messaging, internet and calls.
 Though I couldn't figure out how to get the hotspot to work.
I did change the APN to get everything else to work.

   Feel free to buy it yourself and try it out.

This guy has the best pricing on these phones, you can search for these on your own on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-E4810-DuraXV-Extreme-16GB-Verizon-Rugged-Cell-Phone-Very-Good-/383765195581?

 Though it needs to be unlocked. Or could be it comes already unlocked.
 If they're are not unlocked you can find a $5 unlock code on ebay.
Have one coming this afternoon IYH. What do I do with the APN for tmobile?
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