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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 470810 times)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2180 on: September 22, 2022, 08:54:12 PM »
A free talk & text (with voice access - a voice to text app) filter is now available for the TCL Flip 2 (TracFone).
Details and Downloads here.
This may work, but has not been confirmed yet, on the other variants of this phone (T-Mobile, Cricket, US Cellular).
For more information on where to buy this phone, see the wiki.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2181 on: September 24, 2022, 09:05:50 PM »
Does not work with tracfone. Okay phone. Still needs work...

Still needs work in what sense?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2182 on: September 24, 2022, 10:04:55 PM »
A free talk & text (with voice access - a voice to text app) filter is now available for the TCL Flip 2 (TracFone).
Details and Downloads here.
This may work, but has not been confirmed yet, on the other variants of this phone (T-Mobile, Cricket, US Cellular).
For more information on where to buy this phone, see the wiki.
Anything like this available with Waze?

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« Reply #2183 on: September 24, 2022, 10:20:25 PM »
Anything like this available with Waze?
In the coming weeks, we will iy”h hopefully have an option with Waze, and with a few more changes to make it a stronger filter. (It's pretty strong already, but could use more).

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« Reply #2184 on: September 24, 2022, 11:31:53 PM »
In the coming weeks, we will iy”h hopefully have an option with Waze, and with a few more changes to make it a stronger filter. (It's pretty strong already, but could use more).
If I download the current filter, will I then be able to update it to that filter?

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« Reply #2185 on: September 24, 2022, 11:54:41 PM »
If I download the current filter, will I then be able to update it to that filter?
Yes

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2186 on: September 24, 2022, 11:58:16 PM »
Yes
How would I be able to access the link with the internet blocked?

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« Reply #2187 on: September 25, 2022, 02:44:19 AM »
How would I be able to access the link with the internet blocked?
Access what? This filter is installed by flaring parts of firmware to your phone. You download everything on a windows computer, then follow instructions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2188 on: September 25, 2022, 08:50:41 AM »
Anyone have the LG Classic in stock at MSRP?

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« Reply #2189 on: September 25, 2022, 01:14:01 PM »
Anyone have the LG Classic in stock at MSRP?
LOL, Don't think you'll find that.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2190 on: September 25, 2022, 02:44:13 PM »
A free talk & text (with voice access - a voice to text app) filter is now available for the TCL Flip 2 (TracFone).
Details and Downloads here.
This may work, but has not been confirmed yet, on the other variants of this phone (T-Mobile, Cricket, US Cellular).
For more information on where to buy this phone, see the wiki.
my filter(teqlock) doesnt let me access that site. any way to get a direct link for the download?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2191 on: September 29, 2022, 09:10:45 PM »
A free talk & text (with voice access - a voice to text app) filter is now available for the TCL Flip 2 (TracFone).
Details and Downloads here.
This may work, but has not been confirmed yet, on the other variants of this phone (T-Mobile, Cricket, US Cellular).
For more information on where to buy this phone, see the wiki.
after installing this filter will I still be able to unlock the phone after 60 days? or will it be automatically unlocked just by flashing the phone?



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2192 on: September 29, 2022, 10:33:38 PM »
This does not unlock your phone.

It will not effect the unlocking of your phone to install this filter.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2193 on: September 30, 2022, 01:44:55 AM »
Anyone have the LG Classic in stock at MSRP?
Which is? And how much are they actually going for?
Don't even try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2194 on: September 30, 2022, 02:02:52 AM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2195 on: September 30, 2022, 02:18:27 AM »
$20-$30closer to $150
I believe $150 (or whatever is going for) is the msrp. However, some companies sell the phone locked at below msrp in order to get you to use their service.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2196 on: September 30, 2022, 10:34:20 AM »
Everyone sold it at 30. Walmart, best buy, tracfone, target, Amazon. The only people who sell it higher are ebay and third party sellers of walmart, amazon etc.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2197 on: September 30, 2022, 10:45:18 AM »
Everyone sold it at 30. Walmart, best buy, tracfone, target, Amazon. The only people who sell it higher are ebay and third party sellers of walmart, amazon etc.
that's not everyone - those happen to be the places that sell prepaid phones at a subsidized rate. Back in the day when I worked in a cellphone store, we would go to Walmart to buy the prepaid phones for $15 and sell for $80.
If we would have bought them directly from Verizon's ordering site for retailers, we would have paid much more. I forgot how much exactly, but I think Verizon was selling it to us for more than $80.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2198 on: September 30, 2022, 11:10:45 AM »
Yes, you can do a lot of phone resale buying from walmart itself. However, everyone sold this phone at 30. Including tracfone. You couldn't buy it at 150 even if you wanted. The phone was a 30 dollar phone whereever you bought it, except target which sold it for 15 for a while.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2199 on: September 30, 2022, 12:15:31 PM »
that's not everyone - those happen to be the places that sell prepaid phones at a subsidized rate. Back in the day when I worked in a cellphone store, we would go to Walmart to buy the prepaid phones for $15 and sell for $80.
If we would have bought them directly from Verizon's ordering site for retailers, we would have paid much more. I forgot how much exactly, but I think Verizon was selling it to us for more than $80.
This was a TracFone exclusive model. Was sold by all big-box stores for MSRP $30. Once they ran out of stock and TracFone stopped producing them, 3rd party sellers that bought them started selling them at much higher rates because it is a much-wanted, somewhat-decent phone from a reliable brand. This is not the normal way things work. This is a fluke. Like the LG Exalt going for upwards of $400. It's the kosher phone market driving up the prices.