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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2460 on: March 04, 2023, 07:18:40 PM »
Ordered 2 phones at once, second one as an additional line, activated first one already, any way to activate it separately so that I can use a referral link and get points for it ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2461 on: March 06, 2023, 12:51:29 PM »
Bump
Ordered 2 phones at once, second one as an additional line, activated first one already, any way to activate it separately so that I can use a referral link and get points for it ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2462 on: March 06, 2023, 01:20:57 PM »
Ordered 2 phones at once, second one as an additional line, activated first one already, any way to activate it separately so that I can use a referral link and get points for it ?
Not ime. I tried but couldn't figure out how to. Is the second phone already showing up in your first phones account online as inactivated?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2463 on: March 16, 2023, 03:21:49 PM »
We are trying to get a phone and then have it TAGed.

We were recommended the Nokia 6300.
How does that compare to the Alcatel Smatflip and the LG Classic? Those are our other options (so far).
Also, should we be looking into other phones?
Thanks.

(We need it for Hello Mobile which uses T-Mobile's network.)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2464 on: March 16, 2023, 03:24:37 PM »
The best cheap one is probably the TCL Flip 2. (T408DL)
How does that compare to the Alcatel Smartflip?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2465 on: March 17, 2023, 03:45:49 AM »
We were recommended the Nokia 6300.
How does that compare to the Alcatel Smatflip and the LG Classic? Those are our other options (so far).
Also, should we be looking into other phones?
(We need it for Hello Mobile which uses T-Mobile's network.)
Lg Classic is the best the options you are providing (Although I dont know first hand how well it works on Hello Mobile).
How does that compare to the Alcatel Smartflip?
TCL Flip 2 is way better then the Smartflip. (Still not as good as the Classic)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2466 on: March 17, 2023, 01:14:51 PM »
Thank you for the response.

Just to be clear, when I wrote Smartflip I meant the 4052R.
Is the TCL Flip 2 better than that?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2467 on: March 22, 2023, 11:42:10 PM »
Is there a way to back up or transfer contacts from an Alcatel Smartflip to a computer or a new phone? (It's TAGed, so online backup is not an option.)
When it gets connected to a computer we don't see any contacts file.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2468 on: March 22, 2023, 11:50:16 PM »
Is there a way to back up or transfer contacts from an Alcatel Smartflip to a computer or a new phone? (It's TAGed, so online backup is not an option.)
When it gets connected to a computer we don't see any contacts file.
Bluetooth the contact file?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2469 on: March 24, 2023, 06:18:15 PM »
Is there a way to back up or transfer contacts from an Alcatel Smartflip to a computer or a new phone? (It's TAGed, so online backup is not an option.)
When it gets connected to a computer we don't see any contacts file.
Put it on the SD card and then drag the file off.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2470 on: March 28, 2023, 03:01:27 PM »
The best cheap one is probably the TCL Flip 2. (T408DL)
What's the cheapest way to get an unlocked one to use with GSM?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2471 on: March 28, 2023, 03:19:16 PM »
What's the cheapest way to get an unlocked one to use with GSM?
Activate it with the cheapest plan and wait 60 days. Or try buying the US Cellular version which seems to come unlocked.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2472 on: March 29, 2023, 10:54:29 AM »
TracFone gas the LG Classic brand new back in stock for 30 dollars


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2473 on: March 29, 2023, 10:55:17 AM »
TracFone gas the LG Classic brand new back in stock for 30 dollars
Showing OOS for me
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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« Reply #2474 on: March 29, 2023, 10:57:13 AM »
Showing OOS for me
Weird just ordered one yesterday

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« Reply #2475 on: March 29, 2023, 10:59:23 AM »
Maybe you got the last one :D
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« Reply #2476 on: March 29, 2023, 11:00:50 AM »
Maybe you got the last one :D
I guess  so::)

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« Reply #2477 on: March 29, 2023, 11:01:02 AM »
Ordered one 3 weeks ago, gave up on getting it, but was delivered yesterday

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2478 on: April 18, 2023, 04:39:33 PM »
If I buy the Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810 refurbished from amazon will it come unlocked as per Verizon's unlock policy assuming it was originally purchased over 60 days ago?



"Postpaid Device Unlocking Policy

Devices that you purchase from Verizon are locked for 60 days after purchase. Devices that you purchase from our retail partners are locked for 60 days after activation. After 60 days, we will automatically remove the lock. Following the 60 day lock period, we do not lock our phones at any time.



Prepaid Device Unlocking Policy

Devices that you purchase from Verizon and certain devices purchased from our retail partners are locked for 60 days after activation. After 60 days, we will automatically remove the lock. Following the 60 day lock period following device purchase, we do not lock our phones at any time.



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2479 on: April 18, 2023, 11:34:58 PM »
Hello Mobile voicemail still hasn't updated to daylight savings time.
Anyone know how to manually change the VM time?
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