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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 482012 times)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2640 on: October 01, 2023, 08:42:54 PM »

Thanks a lot. This one seems locked.

It works smoothly, or feels like it lags a bit ? (drives me nuts)

He is in Europe so this won't work.

Look into the Sonim XP3 Plus unlocked. Runs on Android.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2641 on: October 01, 2023, 09:37:53 PM »
Good Year folks.
I am considering seriously switching to a flip phone, however, as I am not in the US, it would need to be an Unlocked one.
I really want an android os (for the ease of dealing with contacts and to support hebrew and other languages).
I do not need whatsapp or browsing capabilities.
Thanks a lot.
LG classic?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2642 on: October 02, 2023, 09:20:33 AM »

Thanks a lot. This one seems locked.

It works smoothly, or feels like it lags a bit ? (drives me nuts)
The one I linked is the US Cellular version, it comes unlocked. (Even if it says in the description that it is locked.)

In general it is smooth but there are places where it lags.
He is in Europe so this won't work.

Look into the Sonim XP3 Plus unlocked. Runs on Android.
I have used that model in Europe and Israel and it worked fine. I didn't use it for long periods of times and may not support all bands but it definately supports basic ones.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2643 on: October 02, 2023, 12:37:58 PM »
He is in Europe so this won't work.

Look into the Sonim XP3 Plus unlocked. Runs on Android.
Thanks, שונאים is quite a scary name, also XP  service pack 3, sounds great

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2644 on: October 02, 2023, 12:39:41 PM »
The one I linked is the US Cellular version, it comes unlocked. (Even if it says in the description that it is locked.)

In general it is smooth but there are places where it lags.I have used that model in Europe and Israel and it worked fine. I didn't use it for long periods of times and may not support all bands but it definately supports basic ones.
I'll check the bands.
As a foreigner you have the option to switch operator, and choose one that has your band.

What's the non US Cellular name?  Otherwise gsmarena.com doesn't recognize it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2645 on: October 02, 2023, 12:40:31 PM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2646 on: October 02, 2023, 12:45:08 PM »
Guys, thanks so much for the help.
For Now I'm using a $20 Nokia (just switched from smartphone), and I feel what I used to feel: pain in the fingers, so if there is an Android flip with very soft buttons or touch, that would be nice.
All the help is very much appreciated.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2647 on: October 05, 2023, 11:49:34 AM »
Where can i find a filter to remove the browser from a kyocera flip phone?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2648 on: October 05, 2023, 03:57:16 PM »
Where can i find a filter to remove the browser from a kyocera flip phone?
What filter?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2649 on: October 06, 2023, 04:05:05 PM »
What filter?
Anything to remove the browser. There is a way to do it with web adb...
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2650 on: October 06, 2023, 04:05:41 PM »
Guys, thanks so much for the help.
For Now I'm using a $20 Nokia (just switched from smartphone), and I feel what I used to feel: pain in the fingers, so if there is an Android flip with very soft buttons or touch, that would be nice.
All the help is very much appreciated.
Why not the Kyocera DuraXV? Its a little more pricy but a very good phone.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2651 on: October 09, 2023, 06:05:03 AM »
Why not the Kyocera DuraXV? Its a little more pricy but a very good phone.
Thanks for that. Trying some Old People Phones now.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2652 on: October 12, 2023, 12:43:42 AM »
Anything to remove the browser. There is a way to do it with web adb...
Manually with this link.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=121322.0

Or with webadb, connect your phone after enabling usb debugging then go to interactive shell. And fire this command to remove the browser.
 I have an cmd prompt that automatically does it if you want...

Or just use this if you can figure it out.

https://www.apps4flip.com/oddsnends/

Running adb commands using WebADB
Head over to webadb.com and follow the directions to connect your device.

Once your device is connected, go to the Interactive Shell section and begin firing off your commands!!

Please note when running commands that contain the words “adb shell” in it. Remove the words adb shell from the command when executing the command in webadb.

Uninstalling Built In Applications

To uninstall built in applications from your 4G flip phone, perform the following:
1. Find the package name of the application that you would like to uninstall. You can do this by running

 adb shell pm list packages
and figuring out which package name matches the app which you want to uninstall.
2. Once you have the package name run the following command (replacing "com.package.name" with the package name of the app you want to uninstall):

 adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.package.name.
Here are example commands to uninstall built in apps from the LG Exalt and other 4G flip phones:

Browser: adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.android.browser
Email: adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.lge.email
My Verizon: adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.vzw.hss.myverizon
VCast Media Manager: adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.vcast.mediamanager
HotSpot: adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.lge.hotspotlauncher

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2653 on: October 12, 2023, 09:52:55 AM »
As I've mentioned before, I had both a flip and smartphone. Over Chol Hamoed my smartphone fell and the screen stopped working. I haven't fixed it yet and so far so good.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2654 on: October 12, 2023, 09:54:07 AM »
As I've mentioned before, I had both a flip and smartphone. Over Chol Hamoed my smartphone fell and the screen stopped working. I haven't fixed it yet and so far so good.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2655 on: October 12, 2023, 11:56:31 AM »
Any flip phones that work on verizon that have email (gmail) capabilities?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2656 on: October 12, 2023, 12:23:06 PM »
Any flip phones that work on verizon that have email (gmail) capabilities?

I think all do.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2657 on: October 12, 2023, 05:26:52 PM »
I have about 20+ LG Classic flips that I would like to get unlocked.
Whats the Easiest/Best/Cheapest way to go about this?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2658 on: October 12, 2023, 09:04:11 PM »
I have about 20+ LG Classic flips that I would like to get unlocked.
Whats the Easiest/Best/Cheapest way to go about this?
Tracphone? get the cheap 90 day plan. activate and put away for 60 days. then call and ask for unlock.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2659 on: October 13, 2023, 05:24:32 AM »
I have about 20+ LG Classic flips that I would like to get unlocked.
Whats the Easiest/Best/Cheapest way to go about this?
Activate with the $10 plan and after 60 days unlock it on via the unlocking website. (The phone does not need to be active for the full 60 days, it just needs to have passed 60 days from activation.)

A little bit more complicated would be to sign up for autopay on the $15 plan. Sign up each phone with its own rewards account and refer every line to each other. Make sure to keep the line active for 2 months so the points post. You will net thousands of TracFone points that you can use to buy more phones. (You get the equivalent of at least $50 for every phone you refer.)